yes,
the only problem is that the general perception is that we (the blind) are incapable of *anything*. Its a constant fight just to get the general public to realize that we can do quite a lot without help.

anyway, I think this has strayed away from the original topic.

-eric

On Aug 12, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alan R. Downing wrote:

> Hello Butch.  There are just way too many things that can't be done
> independently by a blind person, notwithstanding what any fund-raising
> organization says.  Oh it is a great rallying cry all right, even though it
> isn't true.
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> Alan R. Downing
> Phoenix, AZ
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 3:13 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: TS480 power output?
> 
> Hard to read with all those = things, but it still isn't true.  In my 
> opinion, it just a real pain in the ass, but n f b will never change and 
> neither will I.
> 73
> Butch
> WA0VJR
> Node 3148
> Wallace, ks.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> 
>> I really wish people would get the statement complete and unedited.
>> 
>> Y=E2=80=99all who denigrate this belief miss the important half of this =
>> statement, thus:
>> 
>> With proper training and opportunity, blindness can be reduced to the =
>> level of a mere nuisance.=20
>> 
>> Everyone who laughs at the idea that =E2=80=9Cblindness is just a =
>> nuisance=E2=80=9D without fail forgets the first part.
>> 
>> And that is really the important part.=20
>>> On Aug 12, 2014, at 2:35 PM, Alan R. Downing <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> =20
>>> Don't you just love those that claim that blindness is no more than an
>>> inconvenience?  You gotta love it!
>>> =20
>>> Best 73
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> Alan R. Downing
>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>> =20
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of Howard Kaufman
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 11:30 AM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: TS480 power output?
>>> =20
>>> You need a special plug, along with a command, the plug has two =
>> shorted=20
>>> pins.  When you are in to the service menu, their is no speech.
>>> Don't go there unless you have a lot of service equipment.
>>> =20
>>> =20
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