Colin, with respect to Stan's station, yes we will probably use perhaps 5 or
6  AlfaSpid/Prosistel ring rotors.  I was speaking with Jay several days ago
concerning this very subject.  I don't think that we will use any Tic Ring
rotors at all, they will all be AlfaSpid/Prosistels from Jay.  Stan wants
the bottom yagi in each stack to be separately rotatable.  Since he will
have stacks on each band except 80, we will be ordering quite a few ring
rotors, and as you know, they ain't cheap.

73


Alan R. Downing
Phoenix, AZ


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Colin McDonald
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:18 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Quite a surprise

ah ok.  I was thinking for your friends tower project with multiple ring 
roters etc.
I sat around a fire, and had a few beers with one of the designers of the 
alfaspid rotators last weekend.
A very interesting guy to talk with.

73
Colin, V A6BKX
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From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 1:08 PM
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Quite a surprise

> Colin, I know of the new AlfaSpids, but I don't have any plans to mount an
> antenna on the side of the tower, therefore I am not in the market for any
> ring rotors.  We do have a regular AlfaSpid, which came on the mobile 
> tower,
> and if I wanted to use it I could, but I think that I will use a 
> Prosistel.
>
> 73
>
>
> Alan R. Downing
> Phoenix, AZ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Colin McDonald
> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 11:56 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Quite a surprise
>
> absolutely!
> That is very generous indeed.
> Have you investigated the new alfa spid ring roter?
> They apparently showcased it at daton this year and are taking orders for
> it.
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:28 PM
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Quite a surprise
>
>> Hello Colin,  Part of the reason that I was so surprised was that this
>> tower
>> new goes for something right around 20 grand, depending on options.  In
>> addition to the value of the tower and the optional tilt-over fixture, is
>> that I get a $3,000 rotor with it.  That amounts to a lot of coin!
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Alan R. Downing
>> Phoenix, AZ
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Colin McDonald
>> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:57 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Quite a surprise
>>
>> that's awesome.
>> Hams tend to be some of the most generous people you will find.
>> How many times have all of us heard a story, or been the recipient, or
>> been
>> the doaner of a piece of equipment for a new ham, or someone in need of
>> something.
>> Or, when it comes time to cell or buy something, often hams will give
>> other
>> ham friends huge discounts on equipment just because they know it'll be
>> put
>> to a good use.
>> I can't remember how many towers with antennas, and sometimes entire
>> stations have been given away around here in the last 10 years.
>> how many hundreds of man hours go into building and maintaining club
>> stations and repeaters and all that stuff.  It's generally in the pursuit
>> of
>>
>> ones hobby, and not often is there much actual thanks or recognition
>> beyond
>> lip service.  So the generosity is always refreshing to me and only
>> reiterates that hams have a great culture.  There are always bad apples,
>> and
>>
>> sometimes we can't see the forest for the trees, but at the end of the
>> day,
>> we are all out to help each other I think.
>>
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 6:52 PM
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Quite a surprise
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have often referenced a friend who recently bought a farm in northern
>>> Florida for the sole purpose of building a world class ham station 
>>> there.
>>> I
>>> have been assisting him with the design of his station, as well as
>>> helping
>>> with the ordering of tons of equipment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Early last week, Stan bought an 89 foot US Tower in Mesa, Arizona which
>>> is
>>> perhaps 30 miles to my east.  Because the tower was close to my QTH, he
>>> asked if I could store the tower for a few weeks while he arranged for
>>> transportation to take it to his farm.  Of course I said sure, and so
>>> arrangements were made to deliver the tower and related equipment to me.
>>> A
>>> day or two later, Stan found another 89 foot US Tower that had a few 
>>> more
>>> options than the one in Mesa.  Since he liked the second tower better
>>> than
>>> the first one, he bought it.  With the purchase of these two 89 foot US
>>> Towers, he now had bought a total of ten towers.  Once he finalized the
>>> purchase of the tower in Dallas, he told me that he no longer had any 
>>> use
>>> for the Mesa tower, and said that I might just as well keep the tower
>>> that
>>> was coming to my QTH.  The tower was delivered to my place Thursday
>>> afternoon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now I am trying to decide if replacing my tower is worth the effort. 
>>> The
>>> new tower is bigger and better than my current 75 footer, but replacing 
>>> a
>>> tower is not a trivial exercise.  Thankfully time is not a factor, so I
>>> can
>>> make up my mind at any time.  Needless to say, I was very surprised that
>>> Stan told me that I could keep the tower.  It is worth well over ten
>>> grand.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan/KD7GC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan R. Downing
>>>
>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>
>>>