Colin,
Would it be fair to say that the solution to this problem is to just put a lid on it?
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 17:59
Subject: Re: The need for list moderation and control
> really?
> You are going to itemize everything people say, break it down line by line
> and rebut them? And, ironically, rebut them with your own opinions and
> strong points of view in very similar fashion to the very messages and
> posters you are refering to in said rebuttals.
> You missed the boat. it has been made perfectly clear by the moderator of
> this group that expression is allowed on list, and we can go off topic as
> long as things are kept relatively blind related or can be tied back to
> something ham related which they generally can be...except for one
> particular poster who insists upon posting messages about other listers
> behavior ahem.
> Each list is different and repeatedly commenting on how you choose to run
> your lists is not relevant or helpful.
> In point of fact, this entire thread is highly irrelevant and most unhelpful
> to anyone, so congradulations for being that guy who complains about
> something, and yet is doing that very something as he's complaining about
> it.
> You, sir, have been nominated for the 2014 Lid award.
> See, there, I made it ham radio related.
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
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> From: "Robert Ringwald" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 3:25 PM
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: The need for list moderation and control
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>> Jim Shaffer KE5AL wrote regarding moderating an email list:
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>> I've only seen one post on this list that I thought some folks might =
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>> needed moderating, and that doesn't constitute a need for list =
>> moderation in
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>> my opinion. If someone is sending offensive posts, don't read that =
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>> posts! It's as simple as that. =20
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>> You do not know if the post is offensive unless you read it.=20
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>> I don't want my posts to the list delayed
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>> until a moderator can look at them, just because some folks can't handle =
>> bad
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>> language or flames.
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>> The posts do not have to be held up. When someone is using bad language =
>> or harassing someone else, the list moderator can just tell em to knock =
>> it off. Either the guilty party knocks it off, or gets put on moderate =
>> until he/she can conduct him or herself like a responsible adult.=20
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>> I moderate an email list with 640 members from all over the world. By =
>> moderate, I do not mean I have to OK every post. I mean, all posts are =
>> automatically posted to the List as they are on this List. If someone =
>> gets out of hand, I tell em to stop. If they don=E2=80=99t, I put them =
>> on moderate until they can act civilized and treat other list members =
>> with respect.=20
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>> We are all ham radio operators. We are all in the hobby because we enjoy =
>> the hobby. We are a brotherhood. We don=E2=80=99t need to be publically =
>> insulting and harassing other ham radio operators.=20
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>> What you want to do privately is your business. But when it is public, =
>> freedom stops where it impinges on other peoples freedom. This goes for =
>> freedom of expression or any other kind of freedom.=20
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>> One thing that's really starting to bug me about this country is that we
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>> seem to think that when something goes wrong, we need to pass a law or =
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>> why I've become a Libertarian.
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>> --
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>> Jim, KE5AL
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>> Being a Libertarian does not mean that you throw all of your manners and =
>> respect for other people=E2=80=99s rights away.=20
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>> -Bob Ringwald K6YBV
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> From: Michael Ryan
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>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:51 PM
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>> To:
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>> [log in to unmask]
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>> Subject: The need for list moderation and control
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>> Hi all:=3D20
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>> I just read Howard's posting regarding someone to grow up, suck it up =
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>> and be thankful you got a radio and antennas and such.=3D20
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>> I haven't been really following the thread because, quite frankly, I =3D
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>> wasn't interested in the constant postings regarding the iPhone and =3D
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>> reader, or accessible transceivers and the like. Simply I really didn't =
>> =3D
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>> have anything to add on the subject of the US tower and so on.=3D20
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>> I think though its time that the list owner get it together and start =
>> =3D
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>> moderating this list or turn it over to an individual or group who can. =
>> =3D
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>> We don't need people offending each other on this list and we also don't =
>> =3D
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>> need the constant non ham radio related subject which seems to be =3D
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>> drowning the radio subject of this list. I posted some help to the Yahoo =
>> =3D
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>> FT-102 user group when I 1ST got my rig and an individual in Hungry, =3D
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>> who's well known in DX circles bashed the Hell out of me because I was =
>> =3D
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>> explaining to another fellow lister my vision loss and the tools I had =
>> =3D
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>> at my disposal to use the 102 and what I could see and what I couldn't. =
>> =3D
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>> Well this well known DXer more or less proclaimed that I was someone, A =
>> =3D
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>> using my blindness as a crutch and B, I was someone who had just walked =
>> =3D
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>> into a lawn mowing store looking to buy the shoes off the salesmen's =3D
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>> feet because they wouldn't sell me shoes. LOL=3D20
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>> That idiot was band from the list pronto. So I think its high time that =
>> =3D
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>> someone or someones, start doing the same and get control of this list. =
>> =3D
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>> I'm not saying that all non HR related activity be band because =3D
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>> technology and situations can be used as guide lines to different =3D
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>> aspects in our lives but it does need to be lidded somewhat.=3D20
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>> Just my thoughts, hope to catch some of you on the air this =
>> weekend.=3D20
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>> 73:=3D20
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>> Mike VO1AX=3D20
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