Ed,

Speaking for myself, and as a third rate CW op, I  was trying to look at 
it from the context of FSK RTTY.   If someone has his mark and space 
tones reversed,  switching to the reverse would let you copy him.  I 
couldn't understand how that would have  applied to CW.

Also, my first (and for 13 years only rig) was a TS-430 which  had a CW 
mode button  I hit CW and that was that.   Didn't have any idea about 
this other stuff, or all the ins and outs of CW operation.

73 and tnx for your input on this, Steve KW3A

On 3/10/2014 1:37 PM, Ed Malmgren wrote:
> I can't think why having a choice would be such a mystry, some like copying
> on upper and some like lower for C W   so having this choice is a no
> brainer.  I used to use all Tem Tec gear and that was the about the only
> reason I did not like the rig was because  it give you one side and that is
> all.  Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelvin Marsh
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 11:20 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Auto Zero Beat With Ts590
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> You're not alone.  Not being an experienced CW op here, the CW reverse stuff
> was a mystery to me too!
>
> BTW, you were a 59 with great audio on the net!
>
> Best wishes, Kelvin Marsh - M0AID
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Steve Forst
> Sent: 09 March 2014 23:52
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Auto Zero Beat With Ts590
>
> Tom,
>
> I heard you say on the 20 meter net that  prior to this recent
> discussion you were not aware of the cw auto tune in the 590.  I think
> you still have a 480 in the RV.  You may or may not be aware that cw
> auto tune is also on the 480.  Just to the right of the number pad are 4
> keys in a diamond pattern for  setting NR, filters, etc.  The  bottom of
> these 4 keys is the cw auto tune.
>
> Thanks to posts from Lloyd, Ed, and Steve, I now have some idea of  the
> cw reverse stuff.   Never had the slightest idea what it was there for.
>
> 73, Steve KW3A
>
> On 3/9/2014 6:51 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
>> Good point, Ed.
>>
>> I'll give that a try the next time I'm trying to work a pileup.
>>
>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Ed Malmgren
>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:19 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Auto Zero Beat With Ts590
>>
>> It is good having a choice on C W  if the pileup is above your listening Q
> R
>> G which is normally the case then you can listen on the other side of the
>> signal to avoid hash from folks sending close to the D X station.  Ed
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tom Behler
>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 12:32 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Auto Zero Beat With Ts590
>>
>> Steve:
>>
>> Considering all the CW operating I do, I guess I'm no expert on this
> either,
>> and have sure learned a lot today.  As it turns out, my transmit and
>> listening frequencies were never that far off, but the auto-zero-beat
>> function allows me to be sure, which is a good thing.
>>
>> I guess one of the reasons for CW reverse is that you can doublecheck to
> be
>> absolutely sure you are zero-beat with the station you are working, as the
>> article Danny sent out explains.
>>
>> There may be other reasons for using CW reverse, but I am not totally sure
>> what they might be.
>>
>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Steve Forst
>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 2:11 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Auto Zero Beat With Ts590
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> I'm no cw  guy, but use this feature all the time and  have this function
>> set to one of my extra pf keys for easier use. I don't recall the limits
>> offhand, but both  filter bandwidth and shift need to be below certain
>> values i.e. if the filter is too wide or the  pitch too high, the feature
>> won't work.
>>
>> I think this feature was a 2 button press on the TS-2000, but  only a
> single
>> press for the 590.
>>
>> I have to admit I never understood what the cw reverse was all  about, but
>> hopefully I'll learn something.
>>
>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>
>>
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