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I think you want menu 34 and adjust between 400 and 1000 hz.

73, Steve KW3A

On 3/9/2014 2:54 PM, Jim Gammon wrote:
> Have no idea if you can adjust the side tone on the Kenwood
> TS480.  Anyone here know about that? Jim WA6EKS
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lou Kolb <[log in to unmask]
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date sent: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 09:40:52 -0400
> Subject: Re: 4WeWhoDoCW,AGudRtikl;dd:Zero beating, what is it,
> how do we do it and why should we do itf, By N3EF
>
> Danny,
>
> Great article on something that has long been a pet peev of mine.
> Most ops
> probably don't even know  where they have to tune a signal for it
> to be
> exactly zero-beat with the other station.  They just tune to a
> pitch they
> like which may or may not be right on frequency.  The K3 sidetone
> tracks the
> transmitter offset frequency so its extremely easy to zerobeat.
> You just
> choose a sidetone you like and make sure your receiver matches it
> when you
> tune in a signal and you're good to go.  I think several newer
> transceivers
> are set up like this but for far too long it was harder than it
> should've
> been to zero-beat on CW.
> Lou Kolb
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan B Dyer Jr,/Danny" <[log in to unmask]
> To: <[log in to unmask]
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 8:03 AM
> Subject: 4WeWhoDoCW,AGudRtikl;dd:Zero beating, what is it, how do
> we do it
> and why should we do itf, By N3EF
>
>
>   Found this referenced on the QRPL list, and thought it a good
> simple, wake
>   up call-reminder, and one which will cause me to make sure my
> side tone is
>   set as required.  HTH, Wb4idu.
>   Zero beating, what is it, how do we do it and why should we do
> it
>
>   By N3EF
>   First, lets define what zero beating is in general.  Zero beat
> is the
>   condition reached during a measurement or calibration when the
> beat
>   frequency between two input signals is no longer detectable.
> And the beat
>   frequency is the frequency produced when two signals are mixed
> or
>   combined.
>   The beat frequency equals the difference or offset between the
> two
>   frequencies.  In cw, we are using two audio frequencies to do
> this.  One
>   frequency is your sidetone and the other is the pitch of the
> received cw
>   signal which changes as you adjust the tuning dial.  In reality,
> we are not
>   listening for the beat frequency.  We are listening for the
> sound of the
>   two
>   signals going in and out of phase with each other as the two
> frequencies
>   get
>   close to each other.  The two frequencies are so close, you can
> barely tell
>   the difference between them, but you can hear a change in
> intensity as
>   they
>   go in and out of phase with each other adding and subtracting in
> level.  It
>   is a "wow...wow...wow.." sound that gets slower and slower as
> the two
>   signals get closer and closer in frequency.  It is more
> pronounced if the
>   two
>   signal levels are the same so you may need to adjust your volume
> and/or
>   sidetone level.  It is easier to hear the "wow...wow" sound when
> listening
>   to
>   two steady tones, but you can also detect it with one steady
> tone and one
>   switching on and off such as cw morse code.  Once you get the
> hang of it,
>   it
>   becomes second nature and you can do it very quickly.  Here is
> the sound of
>   two steady tones of around 750hz that start out at 50 cycles
> apart and
>   gradually get closer until they are identical in frequency.  The
> sound of
>   the
>   two frequencies going in and out of phase with each other is
> very
>   distinctive.  wowwow.mp3   And here is what it sounds like when
> receiving a
>   cw signal as I tune above and below his frequency.  You can
> clearly hear
>   the
>   distinctive sound made when the two frequencies are at or very
> near each
>   other.  They start out with just the received cw and then you
> hear my
>   sidetone come on.  zerobeat.mp3, zerobeat1.mp3, zerobeat2.mp3.
>   Now, some of the old timers will tell you that this isn't "real"
>   zero-beating.  They will tell you that zero-beating is the way
> we use to do
>   it when we had separate transmitters and receivers.  Well, they
> are wrong
>   in
>   telling you that.  The way they did it was just another way of
> getting your
>   transmit frequency the same as the one you are receiving and was
> also
>   known
>   as zero-beating.  The way we do it now is different, but it is
> still
>   zero-beating.
>   So why should we zero-beat anyway? Well, if we don't, then we
> are
>   transmitting on two different frequencies and using more
> bandwidth than
>   necessary.  You may be QRM'ing another nearby station.  The
> other op may not
>   like the pitch of the tones he hears and must use his RIT to
> change it.
>   The
>   other op may be using a narrow filter and not even hear your
> reply.  I
>   recently operated with a special event callsign during the
> Straight Key
>   Century Club's first anniversary special event.  There were
> operators from
>   each call district using the same callsign appended with their
> respective
>   call district.  I was calling CQ 1Kz away from another SKCC
> operator.
>   People
>   answering just threw out their callsign without indicating who
> they were
>   responding to.  This is normal and acceptable as a response but
> some of
>   them
>   were 500Hz off frequency directly between us...so who were they
> responding
>   to? And what about the QRM they were causing because they didn't
> take the
>   time and effort to zero-beat.  There was no big pile-up going on
> here as it
>   is an often used tactic to be heard when there IS a pile-up.  I
> was amazed
>   at
>   how many stations were calling me so far off frequency.  Some
> people don't
>   know what zero-beating is, some do but don't know how to do it,
> and some
>   know how but think it is totally unecessary.  You don't have to
> spend a lot
>   of time and be exactly on frequency, but you should try to get
> close.
>   There
>   are many aspects of working CW that mark you as a good operator.
> I think
>   zero-beating is one of them.
>   There are other ways to zero-beat the other station.  If your
> rig has a
>   cw-reverse mode, you can just switch back and forth from cw to
> cw-reverse
>   and adjust your dial until the tone sounds the same in each
> mode.  You can
>   tune until you think your close and then turn on a narrow filter
> and tune
>   for max signal level.  Some rigs like the Yaesu FT-897 have a
> zero-beat
>   indicator lamp.  There are also zero-beat indicator kits that
> you can adapt
>   to your rig.  If you have an audio output to your computer you
> can use one
>   of
>   several programs available to do it via your soundcard.
>   One other thing you need to be aware of is that some rigs have
> an
>   adjustable
>   sidetone pitch that does not track the rigs transmit offset.  If
> you change
>   the sidetone pitch, you can't use it to zero-beat properly.
>   I hope this article and sound files have been of help and I hope
> you
>   consider zero-beating an important part of your operating
> practices.
>   Long live CW!
>
>
>

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