You can certainly train yourself as Steve and I have said in this thread.

It is certainly proven that, in northern climes,  the suicide rate in the
winter is high owing to the lack of sunshine.  There also exists the
condition known as SAD which affects sighted people if they are not exposed
to daylight and possibly sunshine.

As you say, middle-older aged people require less sleep, but we are talking
about the light effect on sleep which is certainly proved to be very much
lessened in totally blind people.


ATB

David W Wood 
-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Cathy Larkins
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:32 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Off Topic: Non 24 A Blind Disease?

I have been reading everyone=92s posts about the Non 24 hour sleep =
disorder and had some theories=85.  when you get older (40-60, etc)   =
most people have sleep pattern problems anyway whether they are =
blind/visually impaired or not. Could it be as simple as having a =
=93sedentary=94 lifestyle as a result of being blind and therefore you =
aren=92t tired enough to sleep, how about exercise?=85 it does affect =
one=92s internal clock not being able to tell day from night=85but what =
do astronauts do? People who are stationed in areas like the North Pole  =
where there is no daylight for 6 months? Isn=92t it possible to =93train=94=
 your body into a good sleep pattern? Can you train your body into a =
routine?   Buy a treadmill or gazelle (cheapest gazelle is around $99 =
and delivered to your home, get someone to put it together for you) and =
exercise your body, it=92s better than medication and it will make you =
feel better=85it=92s what I do, I have a relative assist me in a routine =
and I exercise twice a day, I have both a gazelle and a treadmill and =
hand weights=85.I have noticed I sleep better and instead of erratic =
sleep patterns I have managed to train my body to sleep 5-6 hours =
straight=85.it doesn=92t work every night, but sleep deprivation can =
have an adverse toll on your health=85just a thought
On Feb 3, 2014, at 11:08 PM, eric oyen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> As I replied elsewhere about 5 minutes ago, they wouldn't have me. my =
=3D
> Body mass Index was a little high for their protocols.
>=20
> THe other issue is that my insurance won't cover it as it is too new. =
=3D
> The cost for a 30 day supply is a bit steep for my wallet as well.
>=20
> Anyway, I think this dead horse has been beat enough for one week.
>=20
> -eric
>=20
> On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
>=20
>> Eric, remember that the blindness community is "larger", more =3D
> accessible for
>> study, and funding for such is far more available.  If you've been =3D
> following all
>> this sleep disurder stuff you'll be aware that there has been a good =
=3D
> bit of
>> advertising and requesting blind people to participate in studies for =
=3D
> a couple
>> years.  For interesting information look up who funded this stuff =3D
> initially.
>> =3D20
>> Tom
>> =3D20
>> =3D20
>> Tom Brennan  KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
>> web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html