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Robert Ringwald <[log in to unmask]>
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Darn it. I don’t know why I can’t remember to change my posts to plain text.

I’ll try again here.



Jim Shaffer KE5AL wrote regarding moderating an email list:





I've only seen one post on this list that I thought some folks might think

needed moderating, and that doesn't constitute a need for list moderation in

my opinion.  If someone is sending offensive posts, don't read that person's

posts!  It's as simple as that.





You do not know if the post is offensive unless you read it.





I don't want my posts to the list delayed

until a moderator can look at them, just because some folks can't handle bad

language or flames.





The posts do not have to be held up. When someone is using bad language or 
harassing someone else, the list moderator can just tell em to knock it off. 
Either the guilty party knocks it off, or gets put on moderate until he/she 
can conduct him or herself like a responsible adult.



I moderate an email list with 640 members from all over the world. By 
moderate, I do not mean I have to OK every post. I mean, all posts are 
automatically posted to the List as they are on this List. If someone gets 
out of hand, I tell em to stop. If they don’t, I put them on moderate until 
they can act civilized and treat other list members with respect.



We are all ham radio operators. We are all in the hobby because we enjoy the 
hobby. We are a brotherhood. We don’t need to be publically insulting and 
harassing other ham radio operators.



What you want to do privately is your business. But when it is public, 
freedom stops where it impinges on other peoples freedom. This goes for 
freedom of expression or any other kind of freedom.





One thing that's really starting to bug me about this country is that we

seem to think that when something goes wrong, we need to pass a law or turn

the problem over to some sort of government intervention.  I guess that's

why I've become a Libertarian.



--

Jim, KE5AL







Being a Libertarian does not mean that you throw all of your manners and 
respect for other people’s rights away.



-Bob Ringwald K6YBV





-----Original Message-----

From: Michael Ryan

Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:51 PM

To:

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Subject: The need for list moderation and control

Hi all:=20

I just read Howard's posting regarding someone to grow up, suck it up =

and be thankful you got a radio and antennas and such.=20

I haven't been really following the thread because, quite frankly, I =

wasn't interested in the constant postings regarding the iPhone and =

reader, or accessible transceivers and the like. Simply I really didn't =

have anything to add on the subject of the US tower and so on.=20

I think though its time that the list owner get it together and start =

moderating this list or turn it over to an individual or group who can. =

We don't need people offending each other on this list and we also don't =

need the constant non ham radio related subject which seems to be =

drowning the radio subject of this list. I posted some help to the Yahoo =

FT-102 user group when I 1ST got my rig and an individual in Hungry, =

who's well known in DX circles bashed the Hell out of me because I was =

explaining to another fellow lister my vision loss and the tools I had =

at my disposal to use the 102 and what I could see and what I couldn't. =

Well this well known DXer more or less proclaimed that I was someone, A =

using my blindness as a crutch and B, I was someone who had just walked =

into a lawn mowing store looking to buy the shoes off the salesmen's =

feet because they wouldn't sell me shoes. LOL=20

That idiot was band from the list pronto. So I think its high time that =

someone or someones, start doing the same and get control of this list. =

I'm not saying that all non HR related activity be band because =

technology and situations can be used as guide lines to different =

aspects in our lives but it does need to be lidded somewhat.=20

Just my thoughts, hope to catch some of you on the air this weekend.=20

73:=20

Mike VO1AX=20

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