Hi Howard,

I agree with you about narrator.

God bless,
Mark



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-----Original Message----- 
From: Howard, W A 9 Y B W
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:12 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: window-eyes

Using Narrator is like using a mallet and chisel to write a novel.

Howard #3

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RJ Sandefur" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: window-eyes


> No they aren't not being rembersed by microsoft! This is only a roomer!
> Second, Microsoft's main goal is to make narator so that we as blind
> people
> won't have to use third party screen readers. RJ
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:36 PM
> Subject: Re: window-eyes
>
>
>> First, I'd say there is a big chance they are being reimbursed by
>> Microsoft.
>> Their ain't no such thing as a free lunch!
>>
>> Second, you are correct that WE uses a lot of the control-shift combo
>> whereas Jaws uses the insert key.  There are a lot of commands to
>> remember
>> with screen-readers, particularly with Jaws nowadays.
>>
>> Third, Windows has made the System Access using the USB drive slightly
>> more
>> problematic after Windows Vista, Windows 7 and 8, as well as the SP3
>> update
>> to Xp.  Microsoft doesn't like programs to run from a flash drive so that
>> plug 'n play capability has been disabled by default.  You can still run
>> SA
>> from a flash drive, as you can the other screen-readers, but you need to
>> know that there will be a dialog you have to authorize.  The advantage to
>> using System Access in this way is it doesn't rely on loading video
>> chaining
>> and mirror drivers as Window-Eyes and Jaws does.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "richard fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 11:50 AM
>> Subject: window-eyes
>>
>>
>>> Hi;
>>> I think this is a great offer.  I am a bit perplexed though.  Gw
>>> micro still is in business to make a profit.  So how are they
>>> profitting from this free software? Any chance they are being
>>> reimbursed by the folks selling office?
>>> Although the free version is nice, nothing like your own c d.
>>> This is a very basic general statement but when I switched from
>>> jfw to window-eyes just remembering that gw tends to use control
>>> shift as their modifier where as jfw tends to use enter.  I'm
>>> using some software at my parttime retirement job that will only
>>> read using the number pad with window-eyes.  I'd love to know how
>>> it works with other screen readers.  Unfortunately since its on a
>>> network you have to get the blessing of a few people before
>>> installing and uninstalling things.  If I understand system
>>> access correctly you can just have it on a flash drive and plug
>>> in the flash drive where ever and away you go.
>>> I understand what folks are saying but this brain isn't sure it
>>> wants to deal with two or three screen readers.  If you have to
>>> change screen readers depending upon what your trying to do then
>>> somebody needds to work on their screen reader.
>>>    richard
>>> sent from my braille note