No, the Catholic church didn't start until around 400 A.D. Secular
historians will agree to that. Kinda like the Baptist Bride claiming
to go back to Christ and I don't believe them, either.
earlier, Angel, wrote:
>There are different Christian Faiths. The first separation of the
>Faiths being in 325 AD When the eastern orthodox and the Roman
>Churches separated. Then, of course, there was that when Luther and
>those responsible for the reformation separated from the Roman
>Church. The eastern Orthodox, and the Coptic Christians remained
>in tact since their founding by Saint Paul and those apostles who
>founded the Coptic Church. It is interesting, one of the questions
>asked the orthodox monk when he was lecturing was: Whether he
>believed Each Faith could ever partake of the Eucharist
>together. He, of course said: He didn't believe this would be
>possible in his lifetime. Because of the different doctrines each
>held regarding the Eucharist. Also, there are so many other things
>about which agreement is not possible, I think. I doubt we in
>Christendom shall ever be truly a holy catholic church
>again. Catholic in the sense of being universal. I dare say I have
>learned a good deal about why it is people don't reach out toward
>other groups to engage them. It seems those who don't are more
>centered, and are less concerned with whether they are understood by
>others. Such contentment can be seen in the ultra orthodox Jewish
>sects, and in the Amish communities. and why it is I am the only
>Roman Catholic on this list, and perhaps why there aren't more
>interfaith lists. The discussion has also caused me, which is a
>good thing, to become more introspective. Understanding there are
>things which will not be understood by those of other
>Faiths. Which, I suspect is why those groups I mentioned earlier
>never even attempt to dialog. If that were possible, we would be of
>the same Faith. Which is why there is still a difference between
>the Eastern Churches and Rome today. Though, they are coming closer
>to each other now than they have in past centuries.
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris &Hubby Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 10:38 PM
>Subject: Re: Interceeding by the saints:
>
>
>>I do not consider communication between the different christian
>>churches as "interfaith" but as "interdenominational. interfaith
>>to me is between different religionssuch as Muslims and Jews or Christians.
>>
>>Hugs,
>>D
>>oris
>>
>>At 10:10 PM 7/26/2014, you wrote:
>>>Thank you my good friend. We must remember you come from Luther's
>>>church. I suspect many protestants since have separated further
>>>from the church he founded than they would care to admit. The sad
>>>part of this dialog is: Many of the different branches of the
>>>Catholic Faiths. Such as Greek and Russian orthodox feel no
>>>dialog is even possible, and they refuse to engage in any. As
>>>they feel our differences outweigh our similarities. While there
>>>are those who feel dialog is still possible. I spent a couple of
>>>hours last evening listening to a pod cast where an orthodox monk
>>>was invited to lecture at an evangelistic college. He felt dialog
>>>was possible and was important in this modern age in which we
>>>live. He said there were those who have given up this idea of
>>>dialog between the Faiths. I am of that mind now. It is
>>>interesting to know the original Macedonian church to which our
>>>dear Saint Paul preached still exists in Macedonia, and that since
>>>the fall of communism in 20 years the Russian Orthodox Church has
>>>grown four fold. Which gives to us all hope that regardless the
>>>godless government which might rule over us, Christianity will
>>>survive regardless.
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris &Hubby Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 7:54 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Interceeding by the saints:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dear Mr. David,
>>>>
>>>>Ms. Angel's Bible knowledge is very solid. . I am not catholic
>>>>and have no intention to convert but understand the idea of
>>>>asking those who have gone before us for intercession as us being
>>>>all living in the spirit and thus being united in what we stand
>>>>and ask for.. If you think of your dear Ms. April who has gone
>>>>before you, I think she probably will alway be with you and be a
>>>>part of you. As the Legacy 5 song goes: They will be with us
>>>>longer than then we are without"
>>>>
>>>>in Christian sistership,
>>>>
>>>>Doris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 05:56 PM 7/26/2014, you wrote:
>>>>>While Jesus was here on earth, He upbraided the scribes and
>>>>>pharisees for substituting their traditions for the WORD OF
>>>>>GOD. Why do Catholics and others who believe in communicating
>>>>>with the dead and/or that the dead intercede for us think
>>>>>they're better than the religious leaders in the days of
>>>>>Jesus? The Bible clearly and emphatically in First Timothy
>>>>>chapter 2 verse 5, "There is one God, and one mediator between
>>>>>God and men, the man Christ Jesus." 1 is 1. 1 is not 2, 5, 17,
>>>>>or even 314,159. The Bible says what it means, and means what it
>>>>>says. Here is something to think about. Whoever disagrees with
>>>>>the clear and plain writing in the Bible, could that person be
>>>>>found guilty of fighting with God? One more thing. Can some
>>>>>one please explain to me the difference between a mediator and an intercessor?
>>>>>
>>>>>On Jul 26, 2014, at 1:28 AM, Angel
>>>>><<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In Revelation, mention is made of the vials of prayers
>>>>>>presented and opened before God from the saints. There is no
>>>>>>difference between those saints residing on the earth, and
>>>>>>those who have passed from this level of existance.
>>>>>>**The nice thing about being a celebrity is that
>>>>>>if you bore people they think it's their fault.**
>>>>>>Henry Kissinger
>>>>>>
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