Dear Angel,
Though you disagree with most of us here, that is not going to stop
us from talking about this subject. <smile>
Thanks much.
Many Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.
At 06:28 PM 7/24/2014, you wrote:
>I will not read the book. For the reasons I previously
>stated. Many in this world have different beliefs than do I about
>all sorts of things from . John Calvin, to Charles Taze Russell, to
>Joseph Smith. All claiming to base their beliefs on scriptural
>accuracy. Each of whom have flawed reasoning, in my opinion. Of
>course you are free, as you have done, to disagree with me on
>everything. That is your right. About which I wouldn't gainsay
>you. I dare say, I need not have to know about the experiences of
>others regarding either heaven or hell. I
>Shall be having my own experiences in good time. So why should I
>care to read about those of others? When such are so personal, and
>can be so easily contrived by others to make a dollar or
>million. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Scovell"
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:10 PM
>Subject: Just read the book
>
>
>>Angel,
>>
>>After you've read the book, and all the confirming Scriptures used
>>in the book to verify the miracle, then tell us how your beliefs
>>are superior to everyone else's believing in Bible doctrine and
>>theology. But you aren't going to do that, are you? You are going
>>to keep running down everyone else who has read it as being
>>gullible, easily fooled and misguided, so called Bible
>>believers. I still say you are just simply afraid to read it
>>because you would rather believe in a belief system than in
>>Scripture itself even when Scripture is clearly experienced by a
>>Bible believer.
>>
>>Phil.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:51 AM
>>Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little
>>boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>
>>
>>>I am not angry,, I apologize if it seems that I am,. I just
>>>can't understand for the life of me why protestants find it so
>>>hard to believe in some Catholic teachings, such as those claiming
>>>the Saints are interceding for us constantly in heaven, and that
>>>they constantly are with us on earth watching over us with our
>>>personal angels. They being the cloud of witnesses of which Saint
>>>Paul spoke, and they so easily accept something they read from a
>>>book shelf. Almost as if it were gospel itself? It seems to me,
>>>protestants will bee almost willing to believe anything from
>>>almost anyone who claims it to be true. Some are almost as bad as
>>>those who believe the shroud of Turin is real. When Saint Paul
>>>didn't even recount what he saw in heaven, and don't you think he
>>>would have at least raved about how he saw Saint Steven there. If
>>>he saw him. Because, we know he suffered from the guilt over the
>>>part he played in his martyrdom, if he saw him in heaven. Why
>>>should I believe any modern recounts of heavenly
>>>experiences. When, in order for A Saint to be canonized, two
>>>miracles must be verified as having been done by that Saint. It
>>>is those recounting from such Saints as Paul and John in whom I
>>>put my trust concerning heavenly accounts. I ask, what is the
>>>litmus test to which you all have put this recounting from this
>>>young man whom no one on the list knows personally? Now I am not
>>>saying the experiences themselves aren't real experiences. I am
>>>just saying why I don't believe they should be taken at face
>>>value. Only God knows whether those experiences weren't
>>>hallucinations. My late husband suffered from a load of
>>>those. Each of which seemed perfectly real to him. I know what
>>>they were too, because he spoke each he saw.
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Bell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:56 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little
>>>boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi All,
>>>>I haven't read the book yet, but I intend too. My first reaction to
>>>>what I'm reading is that this family needs our prayers, and
>>>>compassion.
>>>>Any book that talks about miracles should be weighed against scripture,
>>>>but it seems like what happened to this little one is meant to
>>>>encourage us.
>>>>I haven't walked on water, or raised the dead, but God has saved my
>>>>life more than once, and the testimonies from these events have lead
>>>>people to salvation, which is what really matters.
>>>>We'll know the book by it's fruit. Angel, I'm sorry you seem so angry.
>>>>Blessings,
>>>>Donna
>>>>On 7/23/14, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>Then tell us everything that is theologically wrong with this miraculous
>>>>>experience. I get the feeling you don't want to read this little book and
>>>>>I'm wondering why. Why do you want to argue what you believe when you
>>>>>haven't read this book of a little boy's testimony confirmed by Scripture
>>>>>from beginning to end. Are you worried it might challenge some
>>>>>of your most
>>>>>closely held beliefs?
>>>>>
>>>>>Phil.
>>
>>Thanks much.
>>
>>Many Blessings,
>>
>>Pat Ferguson
>>"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.
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