Now, tell me just exactly what is a magnetic loop compared to other
loop-type antennas.
Howard #3
----- Original Message -----
From: "eric oyen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: New blind-hams list?
>I understand that. However, I still get the impression. call it an over =
> developed sense of paranoia. :)
>
> anyway, back to ham radio.
>
> ANyone around here have experience putting together a magnetic =
> transmitting loop? It seems I can't find a good verbal description on =
> how to properly build one. lots of images, but nothing I can use.
>
> -eric
>
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Howard, W A 9 Y B W wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>>=20
>> I have read every message on this thread.
>>=20
>> I don't think anyone was intentionally bashing those of you who use =
> Macs. I=20
>> think they were just trying to point out that it seems to be more =
> prevalent=20
>> from them.
>>=20
>> Howard #3
>>=20
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "eric oyen" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 11:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: New blind-hams list?
>>=20
>>=20
>>> I also agree. SOmething has to be done as we mac users (and there are =
> =3D
>>> far more of us than "just a few") are growing in number. I have =
> checked =3D
>>> every way that I can and there appears to b no way to change how =
> apple =3D
>>> mail sends its messages. In fact, I have looked at one of the sent =3D
>>> messages using a hex editor and it seems that apple mail isn't =
> sending =3D
>>> with those extraneous characters in each message. This clearly means =
> =3D
>>> that the fault exists elsewhere and there is nothing we blind mac =
> users =3D
>>> can do about it from our end. SO, telling those of us who use macs to =
> =3D
>>> take off just isn't going to solve the problem. Its just going to =3D
>>> alienate us blind mac users who are also hams.
>>>=20
>>> Now, I joined this group because its one of a very few that actually =
> =3D
>>> cater to blind hams, their specific knowledge and tips on how to =
> operate =3D
>>> radio equipment. I still want to participate. However, I am sensing a =
> =3D
>>> certain level of hostility toward myself (and others who use macs). =
> It =3D
>>> is making me feel less than welcome. I don't have the $2,000 it takes =
> to =3D
>>> get a proper windows machine with jaws on it just to satisfy 1 =
> mailing =3D
>>> list.
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>>> so, I think I shall shut up and just lurk.
>>>=20
>>> -eric
>>>=20
>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Steve Dresser wrote:
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>>>> Tom,
>>>> =3D20
>>>> =3D46rom everything I've heard, the extraneous character problem =
> can't =3D
>>> be solved=3D20
>>>> by individuals, which is what's causing the frustration. If someone =
> =3D
>>> knows=3D20
>>>> of an effective solution, please share with the rest of us.
>>>> =3D20
>>>> Steve
>>>> =3D20
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>>>> From: "Tom Brennan" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 09:59
>>>> Subject: Re: New blind-hams list?
>>>> =3D20
>>>> =3D20
>>>>> This is a well over done but somewhat interesting thread. The =3D
>>> problems=3D20
>>>>> seem to
>>>>> be with a small number of people who are complaining about =
> message=3D20
>>>>> formatting.
>>>>> The solution seems to be to create a new list just because of those =
> =3D
>>> few=3D20
>>>>> folks.
>>>>> It seems that it would be far easier for those folks to solve the =3D=
>
>>> problem=3D20
>>>>> from
>>>>> their end rather than disrupt a list which is running well and has =
> =3D
>>> run=3D20
>>>>> well for
>>>>> years.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Another consideration is the loss of privacy that moving the list =
> to=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>>> someone
>>>>> like Yahoo will involve. It almost seems as though people don't=20
>>>>> care=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>>> about such
>>>>> these days but there are enough of us on the list who are older
>>>>> who=20=
>
>>>>> I=3D20=3D
>>>=20
>>>>> would
>>>>> think would be concerned about this.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> My vote would be to leave well enough alone.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Tom
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Tom Brennan KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
>>>>> web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html
>>>>> =3D20=20
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