GW didn't want to come right out and say that the insert key layout is 
similar to the JAWS layout.  Being rather coy.  I was going to have my wife 
run Window-Eyes on her computer this way, but some incompatibilities with 
the USB keyboard we are using made this not work well enough.  And as has 
already been said, there are quite a few behavioral differences between JAWS 
and Window-Eyes, so even though you have the same layout, you may have some 
disconcerting results.  One of the things Judy doesn't like with the 
standard desktop Window-Eyes keyboard layout is that the Delete key on the 
keypad announces the default key in a dialog box instead of deleting 
anything, and the keypad arrow keys move the mouse pointer instead of moving 
your I-beam writing cursor as they do in JAWS.  As has also been stated, you 
don't get a version of Eloquence with the free version of Window-Eyes; you 
pay $39 extra for Eloquence.  The newer Microsoft speech engines are pretty 
good, although responsiveness to typing individual letters falls short of 
Eloquence, DecTalk or E-Speak.  You can run E-Speak if you are willing to 
have Window-Eyes sound like a Braille 'n Speak.  Having said all these 
things, I think it is good that people will have a way to get a fully 
customizable screen reader with good braille display support for a low cost.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 2:13 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes available for free

Howard:

I'll save your instructions for later use when I get the chance to work with
and install Window Eyes here.

But, one part of your instructions is unclear to me.

You said:

"The insert layout as they say, is similar to a familiar screen reader."

What do you mean here by a familiar screen reader?   Where might the insert
mode be most useful?

I'll post this question to the list, in hopes that others like me might
benefit from your answer.

Tom Behler: KB8TYJ


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Howard Kaufman
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 10:45 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes available for free

Tom, I think many other people will have similar questions.

1.  When you install window-eyes, you will find a startup wizzard similar to
jaws.
Here you can tell windows when and where to start automatically or not to
start at all.
2.  alt-control-w is the default window-eyes hot key, but you can change it
from the desktop icon, if that one is already in use, or if you want a
different one.
3.  In that startup wizzard, you can choose the keyboard layout you want.
Their are three choices.
Desktop, laptop, and insert.  The insert layout as they say, is similar to a
familiar screen reader.  No you can't copywright keys.
the free aps are powerful useful and fun.  Some things will not work as well
as in jaws, some things will work better.
Two things you like is the automatic ability to read details in a folder's
list view.  and you will never hear dotdotdot again.
I am not sure about the differences with n1mm and n3fjp.
Here I use system access, nvda, jaws, and window-eyes.  They all have their
place.
From what I can tell, e-mail is also smoother and less chatty with
window-eyes.


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