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Pat Byrne <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 16 Dec 2013 17:30:17 -0600
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Years ago I went to our village council to get permission to put up a 
tower.  One of the council persons said she had originally been 
opposed to the idea on aesthetic grounds but gave that idea up when 
she looked across the street and saw a tower in her neighbors yard 
that had been there for years and she had never noticed it!  Got a 
good laugh and I got permission.  The one for my next house was all 
about meeting specs., for this and that and on and on.  And I got the 
tower up.  This last move I diddn't even try.  All of my tower 
helpers are pretty old and no longer doing antenna work.  Not even 
for burgers and beers!!  Been wires for the past five years and they 
do okay.  But a rotatable Yagi is a wonderful thing!!
Pat, K9JAUAt 03:01 PM 12/16/2013, you wrote:
>Colin,
>
>The environmental impact study would probably study how it may affect the
>environment visually because towers and antennas are ugly.  We get a lot of
>lip about our antennas, however, people don't mind 10's of thousands of cell
>towers ruining the country side and scenery.
>
>Go figure!
>
>Howard #3
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:03 PM
>Subject: Re: Luso towers
>
>
> > wow, this sounds a little over the top.  I can sort of understand why they
> > want soil sample studies, because they want to insure the soil can support
> > the tower etc...I assume it's an unguuyed tower...but an environmental
> > impact study is quite a stretch.
> > that would be like a gas station asking for an environmental impact study
> > when they sell you gas for your car lol.
> > kind of doesn't make sense from a business perspective.
> >
> > 73
> > Colin, V A6BKX
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 5:44 AM
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Luso towers
> >
> >> Jim, The Luso engineer only has to be present when the tower is being
> >> installed, not for the base digging and pouring.  However, copies of all
> >> permits, including soil studies and environmental impact statements must
> >> be
> >> submitted to Luso for their review and approval.  My friend says that
> >> providing copies of all of the paperwork, along with soil and impact
> >> studies, costs several thousand dollars.  There is nothing inexpensive
> >> about
> >> putting up a Luso tower.  However, when it is all said and done, you have
> >> an
> >> absolutely top notch tower.
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Alan R. Downing
> >> Phoenix, AZ
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: For blind ham radio operators
> >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >> On Behalf Of Jim Gammon
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:55 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: Luso towers
> >>
> >> Alan, how large is the foundation for one of these towers?  Does the
> >> engineer from Japan have to supervise the installation of the base?  Jim
> >> WA6EKS
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Alan R. Downing
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:46 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: Luso towers
> >>
> >> The width of the bottom section is 65 inches, less than I would have
> >> guessed.  Width of the top section is 18 inches.  I don't know what the
> >> foot
> >> print of the rotating base is, but that may well be significantly larger
> >> than the first section of the tower itself.
> >>
> >> Here is an interesting fact, when buying any of these towers, you must
> >> pay
> >> for a Luso construction engineer to travel to your station from Japan, to
> >> supervise the entire preparation and installation activities..  You must
> >> pay
> >> all of his expenses, including airline tickets, hotel room, etc.  The
> >> reason
> >> for this is to assure that the tower is installed correctly.  My friend
> >> that
> >> just bought the 90 foot model, had to pay around $5 grand for the
> >> engineers
> >> presence.
> >>
> >>
> >> Alan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Alan R. Downing
> >> Phoenix, AZ
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: For blind ham radio operators
> >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >> On Behalf Of Colin McDonald
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:36 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: Luso towers
> >>
> >> heavy duty alright at around 15 tonnes...that sounds a bit on the heavy
> >> side?  A heavy duty 68 foot del hi only weighs maybe 500 pounds
> >> total...this
> >>
> >> must be a very very large tower? that is, very large spread at the bottom
> >> to
> >>
> >> support so much weight at the top?
> >> Obviously a 68 foot del hi is only rated for about 12 square feet of wind
> >> load though lol.
> >> I can't imagine shipping on a beast like that haha.
> >> 73
> >> Colin, V A6BKX
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:14 PM
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Subject: Luso towers
> >>
> >>> Hello list,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone on the list looked into Luso towers when shopping for a new
> >>> one?
> >>> For those that aren't aware of Luso, it is a Japanese tower builder of
> >>> heavy
> >>> duty electrically operated crankup towers in heights from 90 feet to
> >>> over
> >>> 300 feet.  They accommodate antenna, rotor, and mast weight of up to
> >>> 2200
> >>> pounds.  The 150 foot model is rated to accommodate 140 square foot of
> >>> antenna, and goes from a fully retracted height of 42 feet to a fully
> >>> extended height of 145 feet in 29 seconds.    Masts of up to 8.6 inch
> >>> diameters are accommodated with multiple thrust bearings.  Each model is
> >>> available with a number of options, including a rotating base, and
> >>> automatic
> >>> retraction when winds exceed a preset level.  The 150 foot model weighs
> >>> 29700 pounds excluding options.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> A friend just took delivery of the 90 foot model with the rotating base
> >>> and
> >>> automatic retraction system.  Because of my recent good news on the
> >>> health
> >>> front, I am seriously thinking of ordering the 120 foot tower with the
> >>> rotating base, automatic retraction, 4 inch mast with thrust bearings,
> >>> and
> >>
> >>> a
> >>> prop pitch rotor with Green Heron controller.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If anyone has investigated the Luso offerings, I'd appreciate discussing
> >>> them with you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Merry Christmas everyone, and a very happy New Year.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best 73
> >>>
> >>> Alan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>

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