Hi David, a few more details about the set up here, I think it's
a model r5. I have a 5/8 inch 8 foot ground rod pounded in at
the bottom of the antenna which is like I indicated, mounted on a
10 foot pole which is pounded into the ground itself
with the top couple of feet that are in the ground surrounded
with concrete. Clamped to that pole is another ten foot pole a
little smaller OD that the antenna fits over. The soil is hard
clay and we are about 1 mile south of the straights that run from
the confluence of the San Juaquine and Sacramento rivers to the
SF Bay. 73, Jim WA6EKS ----- Original Message -----
From: David Hillebrandt <[log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]
Date sent: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 13:39:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Observations about a cushcraft vertical antenna
Hi Jim, I have a feeling your vertical is either the r5 or r7000,
though
they make a lot of them. Here in Florida, I have used verticals
many times
with very little ground radial system and still had good luck,
though some
places really require radials to do much of anything. I believe
the r5 and
r7 have a couple radials already attached to the antenna which
helps for
portable use and really don't have to do anything but hook a
radio to it and
start transmitting. Often, the better grounding, the quieter it
is. I find
that my g5rv worked better than the gap challenger vertical on 40
and 80
meters but of course all depends on where the person is on the
other end.
The vertical is a much better dx antenna than a g5rv usually. am
glad yours
is working for you. Hope hear you on the bands. 73 Dave w4ci
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]
To: <[log in to unmask]
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 1:28 PM
Subject: Observations about a cushcraft vertical antenna
Just some preliminary unscientific observations. I have been
using a Cushcraft vertical on 20 through 10 meters for a couple
of months now. Sorry, I don't remember the model number. It is
mounted on a ten foot steel post behind our garage and has its
own ground rod, but only small radials on the antenna itself.
The bottom of the antenna is just a couple feet above the garage
roof. The antenna has a match box at the feed point where the
coax connects at the bottom. Sorry I can't remember the model,
a
ham friend gave me this used antenna. Anyway, my point is that
it's my first use of a vertical on HF and is not as noisy as I
expected it would be. I also have a DXCC dipole that works on
the same bands and I can switch from one to the other antenna
for
noise and signal comparison. I can't really tell much
difference
between the two antennas so far. 73, Jim WA6EKS
----- Original Message -----
From: John Miller <[log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]
Date sent: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 07:00:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Question about antennas
I have the 5BTV ground mounted and honestly I don't really see
it
being as
noisy as I expected hearing my whole time as a ham how noisy
verticals are.
Height might make a difference but with being in a trailer park
and all
buildings being the same height, I'd have to guide it like crazy
if I went
above the roof. I did think about it. I have it guided now
with
very light
rope tied to the house and shed but still half of it is above
the
roof line
of all buildings in this area for miles so when we get wind, it
sure gets
the worst of it. I did it to be safe.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Basden" <[log in to unmask]
To: <[log in to unmask]
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: Question about antennas
I used the 4BTV with four radials on each band on my rooftop and
it
worked extremely well. It was noisy like all verticals, but DX
was
readily available.
73,
Dave, W7OQ
At 09:25 AM 11/29/2013, you wrote:
I have the Alpha Delta DX-EE, and it's a good dipole. I've had
good luck
with it for the past few years, even though I have it in my
attic. I
haven't used one that's exposed to the elements though, so I
can't tell
you
how it holds up under adverse weather.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Ronald E. Milliman
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 11:15 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Question about antennas
Is there anyone here on our list personally familiar with either
of these
antennas, and if so, what feedback can you give me about them?
1. The Alpha Delta DX-EE
Description: Alpha Delta "ISO-RES" inductors replace lossy traps
and
capacitors, rated for Full Power; Direct 50 ohm feed, no antenna
tuner is
required except for extended frequency coverage; Fully assembled
with
insulated #12 copper wire, stainless hardware and 50 ft. of
nylon rope;
Includes the DELTA-C static protected center insulator and
DELTA-CIN end
insulators; Installs horizontally OR as an inverted V; covers:
40-20-15-10M
plus 30-17-12M using a Wide Range Tuner, 40' Multi-band Antenna.
2. Hustler 4BTV -- 4 Band Trap Vertical
Description: 4 Band Vertical HF Fixed Station covering 10, 15,
20, and 40
Meters; 21'.
Ron, K8HSY
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