THis would be a bit expensive, but hay, this is ham radio...  Is there 
an office on the side of the building you could have access to?  You 
could put in a radio that would work cross band and use a cheap ht in 
your office, crossband to the radio on the other side of the building to 
the repeater.  Just a thought.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Fri, 22 Nov 2013, Tom Behler wrote:

> That's very likely going to be my next plan of attack, Dave, if I can't get
> some sort of magmount to work better.
>
> I don't know if it will work, but it certainly will be cheap enough to try.
>
> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Marthouse" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 6:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Jetstream, JTM3BM,
>
>
>> Tom,
>>
>> Have you thought of a j-pole made of 300OHM twinlead.  There have been
>> articles about them over the years.  Maybe you can obtain one and hang it
>> in
>> front of your office window and see what happens.
>>
>> Dave Marthouse N2AAM
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
>> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 5:57 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Jetstream, JTM3BM,
>>
>>    Ron:
>>
>> Well, I'll give the other antenna some thought, although I'm a bit
>> reluctant
>> to purchase it, only to find out that it still can't overcome my
>> challenging
>> conditions in the office.
>>
>> May try making a wire j-pole to try next.
>>
>> Will be a lot cheaper, and I still have your instructions.
>>
>> Oh, what I would give for an office window I could open!!  (grin)
>>
>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dr. Ronald E. Milliman" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 4:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: Jetstream, JTM3BM,
>>
>>
>>> Tom, the Jetstream JTM3BM is about 43" from top to bottom including the
>>> mag-mount base. It is a 1/2 wave on 2 m and two 5/8 waves on 440.
>>> However,
>>> if your other mag-mounts didn't work, I doubt if this one would; though,
>>> admittedly, it out-performs my other two mag-mount antennas. Jetstream
>>> sells
>>> one that is even better than the one I have in terms of the gain. The
>>> only
>>> reason why I didn't purchase the other one is because it has more coils
>>> in
>>> the whip and presents slightly more wind load, and I was afraid it might
>>> come off the top of the van when we were traveling at high speeds on the
>>> interstate. Here is the information on the other one I almost purchased
>>> that
>>> has slightly better gain figures:
>>>
>>> JETSTREAM JT7505BM
>>> Dual band (2m/70 cm) mobile antenna with mag-mount
>>> 3.5/6.0 DB gain -- R & L price: $49.95
>>>
>>> As you can see, it has 3.5 db gain on 2 m compared to 3 db for the one I
>>> purchased and 6.0 db on 440 compared to 5.5 for the one I purchased. For
>>> my
>>> purposes, I felt the lower wind load out-weighed the slightly higher
>>> gain.
>>> So, I purchased the JTM3BM. There is a difference of $10 in the price,
>>> but
>>> that was not a factor at all in my decision. For you, if you want every
>>> possible db gain you can get, the JT7505BM might be a better choice for
>>> you.
>>> It is also slightly longer, by about 1 or two inches, I believe, in case
>>> that is a consideration.
>>>
>>> My suspicion is that you are just in a very poor place with too many
>>> obstacles that are blocking and/or shielding your signal from getting
>>> out.
>>> Evidently, you don't have a window that you can open, right? If you did,
>>> you
>>> could jury-rigged something that would work.
>>>
>>> Ron, K8HSY
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
>>> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:17 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Jetstream, JTM3BM,
>>>
>>> Ron:
>>>
>>> How long is this antenna?
>>>
>>> I am still struggling with accessing the local 2-meter repeater in my
>>> area
>>> from my University office.  The repeater is only about 10 miles from my
>>> office, but my office window is facing exactly in the wrong direction.
>>> Furthermore, the steel in the office building, and all of the computer
>>> electronics in my office and the offices around me are, I think, further
>>> degrading my situation.
>>>
>>> I've already tried a magmount antenna with a cookie sheet as a ground
>>> plane,
>>> but no joy.
>>>
>>> This antenna may be worth my looking at.
>>>
>>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dr. Ronald E. Milliman" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 2:03 PM
>>> Subject: Jetstream, JTM3BM,
>>>
>>>
>>>> Colleagues, just to share with you, I received a new Jetstream, JTM3BM,
>>>> mag-mount antenna today from R & L Electronics. This is a dual band, 2
>>>> meter/70CM antenna rated at 3 DB gain on 2 meters and 5.5 on 70 CM. I am
>>>> extremely impressed with this antenna. It is very well built, has an
>>>> excellent magnet and out-performs any of my other mag-mount antennas.
>>>> The
>>>> 2
>>>> meter repeater is about 25 miles from me, and I can hit it easily, at
>>>> full
>>>> quieting, on 1 watt with the new Jetstream antenna. It was only $39.95
>>>> from
>>>> R & L, including the antenna, base, and 16 1/2' of coax. If you are
>>>> looking
>>>> for such an antenna, I highly recommend this one.
>>>>
>>>> Ron, K8HSY
>>>>
>>>
>>
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