Yeah, I'm sure soil type is always going to be the deciding factor:  One 
guy can shove a rod in by hand where his dog just peed, and someone else 
has to rent an industrial  type hammer drill.   I'm kind of in the 
middle here, I've got several rods in, all via the Armstrong method. 
Not too difficult, and it's probably the only exercise I get.

73, Steve KW3A

On 7/20/2013 11:13 PM, Butch Bussen wrote:
> It isn't even that complicated.  I've used coper tubing.  Put a hose
> fitting on one end and turn on the water.  The preasure will wash it
> right into the ground.  You don't have to twist at all or even push all
> that hard.  I suppose it depends on the type of soil you have but I use
> to use coper tubing that way a lot.
> 73
> Butch
> WA0VJR
> Node 3148
> Wallace, ks.
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> On Sat, 20 Jul 2013, Steve Forst
> wrote:
>
>> I guess it depends on the soil  conditions as to how easy it is to get
>> one out.  I've got heavy clay and lots of rocks here, which makes it
>> hard going in and hard coming out.
>>
>>
>> One thing I had heard about some time ago, but probably wouldn't work
>> here was using copper water pipe as a ground.  He took a 1/2 or 3/4
>> copper pipe and sweat a tee on one end.   He cut 2 1 foot pieces of pipe
>> and sweat to the tee to make a handle.  One end of the tee was capped
>> and the other end had a garden hose connection.  Once he started the
>> pipe into the groundhe turned on the water and  using the tee handle to
>> twist back and forth,  he let the water  pressure do a lot of the work
>> for him.
>>
>> I think it would work ok in a place with sandy soil or some other  light
>> soil, but not around here.
>>
>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/20/2013 8:16 AM, George wrote:
>>> i used a good pair of vice grips.  twist back and fourth and pull up at the
>>> same time.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Cleaning ground Rod
>>>
>>>
>>>> I pulled one out once with a jack.  Wrapped a heavy chain around the rod
>>>> and clamped it in several places.  The jack was a 4 foot tall mechanical
>>>> jack  I used to keep in a 4 wheel drive.  It used climbing pins to move
>>>>    up an I beam as you work the handle.
>>>>
>>>> I suppose this  could have gone seriously wrong if something had snapped
>>>> or failed.   I think it's this kind of episode that killed my chances
>>>> for MENSA membership.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Steve KW3A
>>>>
>>>> On 7/19/2013 9:17 PM, Alan R. Downing wrote:
>>>>> Power companies generally use copper rods, and usually more than one to
>>>>> ground mini-pad mounted 12470 volt transformers.  To remove unwanted
>>>>> ground
>>>>> rods, it is generally much simpler to dig down several inches right
>>>>> around
>>>>> the old rod, and cut it off below grade with a cutting torch or hacksaw.
>>>>> If
>>>>> you really need to remove it, large slide hammers can do the trick, or
>>>>> you
>>>>> can tighten a large C-clamp to the rod and put a small bottle jack under
>>>>> the
>>>>> clamp.  Obviously, some creativity is needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan R. Downing
>>>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Howard Kaufman
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 5:42 PM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: Cleaning ground Rod
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you get a ground rod out of the ground?
>>>>> What kind does the power company use?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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