I forgot if mine is the 600 or 660, but:  there's a learning curve and lots of remembering.  Once I get the radio tuned to what I want, it's great..
Howard
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Buddy Brannan" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: Danny's June 27 comments on the small portable SSB capable shortwave radio thread.


>I am still interested in checking out a Tecsun PL600 or PL660. They get =
> good reviews, but no idea how accessible they are.
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:20 PM, Ron Miller <[log in to unmask]> =
> wrote:
> 
>> Wow, great post, Danny.
>>=20
>> My Grundig doesn't have a record feature at all. I bet it's a G3 and =
> I'm
>> just having a Duh moment. It is about a third the size of the ATS909, =
> which
>> I also own and like a lot. The ATS909 is only so-so with the =
> telescopic whip
>> on hf, not great at all, but has a very good fm broadcast receiver. =
> The G3
>> has pretty good receive using the telescopic whip on hf, a pretty good
>> broadcast fm receiver and a pretty good aviation vhf receiver which =
> lacks a
>> squelch circuit. It runs on four aa batteries.
>>=20
>> My apologies for misstating the model of the Grundig I own.
>>=20
>> Ron Miller
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators =
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Dan B Dyer Jr,/Danny
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:36 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Dannys June 27 comments on the small portable SSB capable =
> shortwave
>> radio thread.
>>=20
>> Hi All, some further observations on the portable SSB-CW capable =3D =
> portable
>> radio discussion; Tot necessarily given in order of importance:
>> 1, I have _No Experience with any of the C Crane equipment.
>> 2, I have no experience with the Kaito KA1103 receiver.
>> 3, I am not familiar with the Grundig G4, although a quick google =
> search =3D
>> showed a unit with an MP3 Recorder-player that sold for $200 or so.
>> 4,Grundig's older Yacht Boy/YB400 or YB400PE, radios, are about the =
> size =3D
>> of the Sony 7600 G and GR radios, have forty volatile memories, are =
> easy =3D
>> to operate, but in my experience tended to be battery hogs/they take =
> six =3D
>> AA batteries, rather than the Four AA for the Sonys, and 3 AAs for the =
> =3D
>> Kaito KA1102, the yb400s go from around seventy to a hundred dollars =3D=
> used.
>> 5, I have no experience with any other of the Grundig/Eton SSB capable =
> =3D
>> radios.
>> 6, There are several other receivers worth considering, Sangean =3D
>> ats909/Radioshack DX398, Sangean ATS505,/Radioshack DX402, both of =
> these =3D
>> run off four AA cells, are similarly sized to the yb400 and sonys, and =
> =3D can
>> sell for 90-150$s for the 909, and 70-100 for the 505.
>>=20
>> 7, Panasonic made some older units, two of which were similarly sized =
> to =3D
>> the above mentioned Grundig, Sony, and Sangean units, they used 4AA =3D =
> cells,
>> and had ten or so memories, but their model numbers escape me.
>> 8, the Sony ICFSW100 is a wonderful shirt pocket SSB cabable radio =3D =
> running
>> off two AA cells, but which sells for 2-300$s used.
>>=20
>>=20
>> 9, Sony also haves some earlier 7600s,/those have only ten volatile =3D
>> memories, run off four AA cells, and there's even a 7600 of some =
> stripe =3D
>> that's not SSB capable, and is only a analog radio with several short =
> =3D wave
>> listening bands, rather than continuous coverage.
>>=20
>> 10, I tried to send the review of the Kaito KA1102 to the list, but it =
> =3D was
>> goo long, so if some of you want that review, write me off list at,
>>> d d y e r 1 AT g m a i l dot com, using the subject line of your =
> first=20
>>> =3D
>> name+1102, and I'll get it to you.
>> 11, But back to the earlier discussion/comparison of the sony 7600G =
> and =3D
>> GR, with the Kaito KA1102.
>>=20
>> if memories aren't really important to you, if you can get along =
> without =3D
>> selectable sidebands and cynchronus detection, both nice and helpful, =
> =3D but
>> not necessary tools for copying SSB and CW,if smallness of size is =3D =
> more
>> important than fullness of sound,/(the Kaito has probably a 2.5 =3D =
> inch
>> speaker, where as the Sonys have probably a four inch speaker,)
>>=20
>> If you'd prefer a new, rather than used radio, can spend between $60 =
> and =3D
>> $70$s, from Amazon, The Kaito, KA1102, that's Kaito, K A 1 1 0 2, not =
> what
>> an earlier post =3D of mine said----/I thought I'd proof read better =
> than
>> that, is probably =3D a good choice/I'm not_____ financially connected =
> with
>> the Kaitos in any =3D way, but find the little things, and they will =
> fit
>> nicely in a suit coat =3D pocket, and even in some shirt pockets, and =
> once you
>> get the hang of =3D them, they're pretty surprising.
>> *I'm sending this much longer than I'd intended, epistle, to the list =
> as =3D a
>> separate post, and I want to thank everyone who has contributed, =3D
>> questioned, commented, etc. throughout this thread.  HTH, Danny Dyer, =
> =3D
>> Wb4idu