Hello,
Thank you for the info. I like to do things with speech off.
Colleen Roth
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Thurman <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Monday, June 10, 2013 8:16 pm
Subject: Re: Touch screens
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> you can do everything not he I phone with a braille display and speech =
> turned off completely. that is one of the I phone's big features for the =
> blind.
> On Jun 8, 2013, at 10:39 AM, COLLEEN ROTH <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I understand that a lot of people love Iphones and other touchscreen =
> Devices.
> > I would not feel comfortable with a Smartphone or Iphone because I do =
> not want to have to listen to all of that stuff and figure out what to =
> do.
> > I like buttons to operate things. Personally, I do not care about all =
> of those Apps.
> > The only way I would consider a Smartphone is if all or most of the =
> things I would do could be done via a Braille Display.
> > That would include reading things with a Braille Display.
> > I definitely do not want a Touch Screen on my Radio because I would =
> hit the Panic Button too much if I thought I hit the wrong button.
> > We each have to choose the path we walk.
> > I have an Icom 2at with Thumb Wheels notched and a PL Board so I can =
> use it independently.
> > Colleen Roth, N8TNV;
> >for20
> >for20
> >for20
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kelvin Marsh <[log in to unmask]>
@> @> 1to#c [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Saturday, June 8, 2013 4:46 am
> > Subject: Re: Touch screens
> >for20
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >> Hi Colleen and All,
> >>=20
> >> If the accessibility has been implemented properly, touch screen =
> technology
> >> can be easily used, and in the case of the Smartphone, can lead to =
> the use
> >> of apps that would never be found with a traditional device. On this =
> basis
> >> I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.
> >>=20
> >> Saying all that, there is a problem with touch screen technology that =
> I've
> >> not heard mentioned anywhere. Basically, you need to be listening =
> fully to
> >> know what you are doing. On a device with voice feedback and =
> traditional
> >> buttons, you can probably get most things done with only cursory =
> attention
> >> to the voice, because you remember the sequence of physical =
> operation.
> >> Using a touch screen needs you to be listening to the feedback =
> completely at
> >> every stage.
> >>=20
> >> On a radio, this is not a useful function. Ideally you will want to =
> make
> >> adjustments without any chatter that might distract you from the =
> signal. I
> >> touch on this scenario in my review of the Kenwood TS-590, when =
> pressing the
> >> button to hear the sub VFO. The frequency is announced by the voice =
> every
> >> time you press and release the button. Fortunately, you can turn off =
> the
> >> automatic chatter, and it can be seen that Kenwood have given this =
> some
> >> careful thought. Too much talk is as bad as not enough! =20
> >>=20
> >> Turning a silent physical control to adjust say Noise Reduction is =
> likely to
> >> be much more comfortable for a blind operator, than one being =
> forced to
> >> use a chattering touch screen. It is for this same reason I prefer =
> not to
> >> use software to control a radio in real time. The only audio I =
> ideally want
> >> to hear is the incoming signal, anything else can be a distraction =
> <big
> >> smile>to =20
> >>=20
> >> Best wishes, Kelvin Marsh =97 M0AID
> >>=20
> >> Working to improve accessibility for radio amateurs with disabilities
> >>=20
> >> www.active-elements.org
> >>=20
> >> For accessibility evaluations of amateur equipment and MP3 manuals
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: For blind ham radio operators =
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >> On Behalf Of COLLEEN ROTH
> >> Sent: 07 June 2013 23:01
@> @> @@@> 1to#c [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: Touch screens
> >>=20
> >> Hi,
> >> Amen to the button and knobs. That is precisely why I do not have a =
> phone
> >> with a Touchscreen.
> >> Colleen Roth
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: John Miller <[log in to unmask]>
@> @> @@@> #a;tocb-ds;c [log in to unmask]
> >> Date: Friday, June 7, 2013 2:41 pm
> >> Subject: Re: Touch screens
> >>=20
> >>>=20
> >>>=20
> >>> I believe there is a radio out or coming out with a touch screen. I =
> forget
> >>=20
> >>> who makes it but I heard about it the other day. I'm sure I'd be =
> fine with
> >> a=20
> >>> touch screen, I have a couple things with the flat key pad like most=20=
>
> >>> microwaves have and I do fine with them but am not comfortable with =
> themea=20
> >>> don't like them and will do my best to avoid them and touch screens =
> where=20
> >>> and when ever possible. I'm just not comfortable with them I'd =
> rather have
> >>=20
> >>> the buttons right there in front of me to push.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> From: "Dustin" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 2:00 PM
> >>> Subject: Touch screens
> >>>=20
> >>>=20
> >>>> Do you guys ever think that ham radios will go to touch screens? Or
> >> maybe=20
> >>>> th=3D
> >>>> ere is already some radios with a touch screen. I wonder what it =
> would
> >> be=20
> >>>> li=3D
> >>>> ke to use a radio running iOS. LOL like that would ever happen
> >>>>=20
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone=3D
> >>>>=20
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >>=20
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