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"Mike Duke, K5XU" <[log in to unmask]>
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Mike Duke, K5XU
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Mon, 29 Apr 2013 19:51:49 -0500
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Ah, what a sweet rig!

My brother had one in the mid 70's, just before the 40 channel rigs 
came out. That had been his dream rig since the mid 60's.

When my brother and I got started in CB back in 1965, in my part of 
the country at least, people behaved themselves pretty well on CB, 
other than an occasional Saturday night speech impairment.

We kids quickly learned who we could talk with, and who it was best 
for us to simply leave alone.

I remember one Sunday afternoon when a resident curmudgeon took it 
upon himself to tell me and an adult I was talking with that we needed 
to be quiet for awhile because 2 mobiles that were 30 miles away from 
us wanted to talk to each other.

About 15 minutes later, this same guy called me on the radio and 
apologized. I never had any more trouble from him.

I didn't learn until several years later that shortly before the 
apology, two guys, including the one who was talking with me, showed 
up at Mr. Curmudgeon's door, informed him that his radio and antenna 
were for sale, and that he would either apologize for being a jerk, or 
they would buy it out from under him right then and there.

Today, of course, one party or the other in such an exchange would 
more than likely be blown away.

Some of the adults that I met as a youngster on the CB remained 
friends well into my own adulthood, and I learned a lot from them.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "COLLEEN ROTH" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: The Sideband War


Hello,
There are people who just do not enjoy life unless they cause 
discomfort for others.
I remember that I got my CB License in 1978.
It was right after the Blizzard. I was one of those weird people who 
used my callsign:
KBIJ5291 all of the time.
There were some CBERS who used _! radios in inappropriate ways and got 
10-meter rigs to work 11 meters.
I had a Browning Eagle which was run in Compliance with the FCC.
People kept wanted me to peek it which I didn't.
After I got my Amateur Radio License I got on CB to talk to someone I 
knew who was very ill.
I cn't wait to turn the radio off.
Once this person passed away my CB antenna and radio were history.
There "were always people on CB who acted inappropriately. I know 
there are some on Amateur Radio but I am happy to say I have never 
heard any.
That is probably because I only participate in Traffic Nes and 
Emergency Traffic handling.
I never do any contesting since I listened to this once and decided it 
isn't for me.
There will always be people in the world who think they are above 
common codes of conduct.
Colleen Roth, N8TNV;



----- Original Message -----
From: Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
,to3 [log in to unmask]
Date: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: The Sideband War

>
>
> That is why I always laugh when some old time ham operator hears 
> about
> 14.313 and goes on and on at great length about the state of ham 
> radio today
> etc etc.
> It's been the same since the beginning lol...nothing changes really 
> as far
> as people being people.
> No kids, no lids, no space cadets.
> I hear an awful lot of whining that the FCC and industry Canada 
> aren't doing
> anything about the 14.313 crue...ag, this is nothing new and for the 
> most
> part they are left to their own devices because they're not really 
> bothering
> anyone except themselves.
> If they cracked down on the 14.313 gang, they'd have to crack down 
> on
> hundreds, maybe thousands of others on 75 and 80 who are just as 
> bad.
> The thing is that those yahoos on 20M can be heard over a much 
> bigger area
> than anyone doing the same on 75...s the low band yahoos don't get 
> the
> notariety that the ve6kfm's of this world get lol.
> It's like this, if you go to a restaurant, and you don't like the 
> food, or
> you think it's just awful, it doesn't mean all restaurants are 
> awful, and it
> won't effect or somehow impact your favorite restaurant.
> If you don't like it, don't go there.  It's not like the bad 
> restaurant's
> food is going to somehow make it's way into your favorite dish at 
> your
> favorite restaurant.
> The 14.313ers stay there and you never ever hear those guys on any 
> other
> frequencies...and if you do, they're behaving themselves.
>
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Martin G. McCormick" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:54 PM
> Subject: Re: The Sideband War
>
>
> > I was still a SWL in the sixties and remember the
> > sideband war vividly. It was going on as late as 1968 and 1969
> > and had all the same trappings as what you hear on 14.313 today.
> >
> > There is a subset of amateur operators who think this is
> > somehow okay. Back then, they were jamming and cursing each
> > other over sideband versus AM and today, it is the same behavior
> > over Heaven knows what. It's hard to tell because it just kind
> > of goes on and on for no particularly good reason.
> >
> > The only thing I can say is that when they are all on
> > 14.313 or 3.850 making fools of themselves, they are off all the
> > other frequencies and life is more civilized there. Think of it
> > as kind of a dummy load. Many of them like to use big amplifiers
> > and, if they would all aim at the same patch of ionosphere, they
> > could possibly heat it up enough to open up ten meters or maybe
> > even 6.
> >
> > Anyway, the sideband war was just the excuse for rotten
> > behavior for that day. The same personality types really don't
> > need an excuse to be idiots so there will always be scoff-laws
> > who don't really understand what amateur radio is all about.
> >
> > Thanks for a good bit of history.
> >
> > 73, Martin
> > "Ronald E. Milliman" writes:
> >> Re the Sideband war
> >>
> >> When sideband was first introduced, it was double sideband; that 
> >> is, both
> >> sidebands were transmitted, but the carrier was suppressed. Thus, 
> >> the
> >> signal still took up about the same bandwidth, but all of the
> >> transmitting
> >> energy was put in the audio component of the signal and not 
> >> wasting power
> >> in the production and transmission of an unnecessary carrier.
> > 

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