But Colin: What if the guy just wants to do it that way; you got a
problem with that or something!?!?!?
On 5/1/2013 5:28 PM, Colin McDonald wrote:
> Well then you don't need to go through the hassle of getting a license to
> use skype or many other online voice and type chat programs.
> No one needs a license to use a computer so why bother with the ham ticket
> if the only way you can communicate due to living arrangements, is via the
> computer?
> If you can't get antennas up and can't use the radio, then why bother with a
> license to operate a ham radio? You obtain that license to specifically
> operate ham radio transmitting apparatus. not to pay for the use of a
> computer program pretending it's radio apparatus.
> doesn't make much sense.
> I see the advantage of IRLP, but at least you do need to use radio equipment
> to access it. No one is pretending that they're on ham radio when it's
> actually a computer. You must use RF to use IRLP so it maintains the radio
> part. Echolink also has a pretty well defined RF aspect to it as well, so
> it's also at least semi-radio related. But CQ100 is just a joke. It's a
> VOIP program with some clever programming to make it look like a radio. At
> least skype is free, doesn't require you to prove you hold a radio apparatus
> operators license for amateur equipment, and has better audio too.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with people who live in nursing homes,
> hospitals, apartments, with relatives or in antenna restricted areas wanting
> to, and being able to talk to other hams, but if it's on the computer, then
> don't make some sham out of a computer program making it look like ham
> radio, then charge people for the privallage.
> Not only that, proving you hold a license? what on earth does that do? It's
> beyond me why you should have to prove you have a license to go onto a
> computer voice chap program...
> If you dump a cheeseburger and pour a beer into a blender and turn it on for
> ten minutes, is it still a cheesburger and beer?
> I'll let you guys be the judge of that.
> Having or getting a ham license is not about being allowed into some clicky
> club or special group. Being licensed simply means you are qualified, and
> have proven through testing that you are qualified, to operate radio
> equipment on the amateur radio frequency bands. It has nothing to do with
> your character, personality, political or religious views. It has nothing
> to do with your skills, or abilities and the way you talk. Or at least it
> shouldn't.
> CQ100 flies in the face of all that is ham radio, and all that the license
> stands for. It makes you prove you are licensed in order to filter the
> membership to what someone has arbitrarily decided are individuals qualified
> to speak to one another. not individuals who are qualified to actually
> operate equipment. So proving you are licensed means they assume that if
> you are licensed, you will be somehow better than the average joe on the
> street and that isn't what ham radio is about at all.
> CQ100 actually puts into a nut shell the biggest reason fewer people are
> getting into this hobby and service. It's seen as a bunch of old farts who
> only want to talk to each other and no one else. And, that's precisely what
> cq100 encourages by demanding proof of a license and pretending it's real HF
> radio.
> At least with echolink, you are using amateur frequencies even if you are on
> your computer talking into a repeater or node, so you should have to prove
> you are licensed to be able to operate on amateur frequencies.
>
> 73
> Colin V A6BKX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Sackrider" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:42 PM
> Subject: ham radio and the internet
>
>
>> Hi this isBrian Sackrider n8mnx and you need to rembember that lots of
>> people live in places with very restrictive antenna restrictions I live in
>> an apartment am I very limited on what antennas that will fit on my
>> balcony
>> and I use the cq100 program on my computer this is a vertual hf radio no
>> it's real hf radio but it's all that some of us have you are required to
>> send prove of your licence to by a membership on cq100. there is a 90 day
>> free trial and then it cost 39 dollars per year. there people on it that
>> are in nursing homes and in hhospitals and they can still can communicate
>> and on the issue of echo link and irlp they are 2 other modes that people
>> with antenna restrictions can still operate so it's always that people are
>> to lazy to putup antenas please think and get your facts before you judge
>> put yourself in our place I got my licence to communicate
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Miller
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:25 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: 47 years as a ham
>>
>> When *I* pick up the phone, it generally is a complete waste of time but
>> that's beside the point. I didn't get a radio license to talk on
>> the
>> phone
>> or the internet, that's not radio and I'd be flat out embarrassed to brag
>> about my last phone call to NY or skype call to TN or where ever it was
>> all
>> those months ago and I certainly would never call an internet conversation
>> or phone call DX, accept a card or anything for it. Why anyone would get a
>> radio license just to use the internet is well beyond me but then, that's
>> why I never get on 2 meters, that's all anyone seems to do these days and
>> they're so happy they never have to actually work to make a contact,
>> upgrade, put up antennas or anything. As far as I'm concerned, they
>> shouldn't be any part of radio with that attitude since they don't even
>> know
>> what radio is if they're calling the internet radio.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: 47 years as a ham
>>
>>
>>> So john, does that mean if you pick up a telephone you are just wasting
>>> your
>>> time?
>>> How is that different than incorporating the Internet?
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