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Karen Carter <[log in to unmask]>
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The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Because there is a big void that seperates them from earth and hell. The ones in hell cannot for the sane reason. Only angels and evil spirits can come back and forth 

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> On Jul 26, 2014, at 1:05 AM, Angel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> That sort of puts a constraint on just what it is they can do doesn't it? If the angels, who are constantly praising God, as are we here on earth without ceasing, and are given time to constantly serve us as guardian Angels, ministering to our needs.  If we can be constantly praising God, both waking and sleeping, while we have jobs and raise families here on earth.  Why can't the saints intercede for us in heaven, as we who live here in this plane of existence find time to pray for those on this list who ask for prayer?  While still praising God.  If we can find time in this temporal world to pray for those who request it of us, then the saints, who live in a timeless eternity surely can devote time, which isn't even an issue for them any longer to pray for us.  Especially so, because physical constraints such as the needs presented by the physical body are not issues for them. Constant praise to God in Heaven is understood, and is assumed by us as a primary postulate by all the heavenly host, both angels and saints.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 12:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Praying to the dead
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> 
> They can not intercede for you only Jesus can the saints are in Heaven where you remember the earth know more because you are to busy praising The Lord read Luke 16.
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>> On Jul 25, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Angel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> When the saints either living or dead intercede for us, we aren't praying to them.  Just as I am not praying to you if I were to ask for your prayers for me.  If I were wanting your assistance that I might endure a difficult time in my life.  Also, as the second McCabe's isn't in your cannon, I won't even expect those scriptures to cancel out those which you quoted.  As they would be dismissed.  I will not engage in an argument regarding something without a possible satisfactory resolution for either of us.  Prayers aren't offered up to our saints.  In the same sense as I suspect was meant by your post. Rather the saints continue to exist conjoined with us as does Jesus, and the blessed Theotocos .
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 7:11 PM
>> Subject: Praying to the dead
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>> 
>> A few verses for those who think you can pray to dead ones. Like saints or relatives. Isaiah 8:19-20.  19. When someone tells you to consult mediums and spiritists, who whisper and mutter, should not a people inquire of their God?  Why consult the dead on behalf of the living.  20. Consult God's instruction and the testimony of warning. If anyone does not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.
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