The whole thing is reminiscent of 1930's Germany.  When tactics were used by 
the government to intimidate its people in to silently accepting its rulings 
and mandates.  After all, our school children can't even bring to public 
schools their lunches from home.  Rather they are forced to eat those 
provided them by the governments school lunch program.  Such things as I 
reported begin with innocuous programs as are the school lunch and breakfast 
programs.  Till all our personal freedoms are denied to all us citizens.
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From: "Doris and Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Coming to a church near you:


That is just absolutley nuts and absurd. i don't
think anything similar could happen here in
Europe even though our governments are
bureaucratic and confused enough in their own right.

i surely am praying for America and the AAmerican
ppeople. This is making a mockery of the
constitution and the principles of the founding
fathers and the reasons the pilgrims left their
homelands and came to America to practice their faith without interference. 
it

high time jesus puts an end to this kind of mess. Come, lord Jesus!

prayerfully

Doris in Germany







At 08:25 AM 10/5/2013 -0400, you wrote:
>I know most on this list aren't Catholic.  But, if this administration can 
>do this to us, are you all far behind?  I suggest you do what I am doing, 
>and to not accept anything from this government.  As long as it remains a 
>godless one.  I ask your prayers to God for us, and against this current 
>administration.  For its abuse of us, and its apparent distain for how our 
>military Catholics might be negatively impacted by its capricious 
>decisions.
>
>The U.S. military has furloughed as many as 50 Catholic chaplains due to 
>the partial suspension of government services, banning them from 
>celebrating weekend Mass. At least one chaplain was told that if he engaged 
>in any ministry activity, he would be subjected to disciplinary action.
>
>"In very practical terms it means Sunday Mass won't be offered," Archbishop 
>Timothy Broglio of the Archdiocese for the Military Services told me. "If 
>someone has a baptism scheduled, it won't be celebrated."
>
>The Archdiocese for the Military Services tells me the military 
>installations impacted are served by non-active-duty priests who were hired 
>as government contractors. As a result of a shortage of active duty 
>Catholic chaplains, the government hires contract priests.
>
>
>A well-placed source told me that a furloughed Air Force chaplain was 
>threatened after he offered to forgo pay.
>Broglio said some military bases have forbidden the contract priests from 
>volunteering to celebrate Mass without pay.
>
>"They were told they cannot function because those are contracted services 
>and since there's no funding they can't do it - even if they volunteer," he 
>said.
>
>John Schlageter, general counsel for the archdiocese, said any furloughed 
>priests volunteering their services could face big trouble.
>
>"During the shutdown, it is illegal for them to minister on base and they 
>risk being arrested if they attempt to do so," he said in a written 
>statement.
>
>A well-placed source told me that a furloughed Air Force chaplain was 
>threatened after he offered to forgo pay. The chaplain was told he could 
>not go on base or enter his chapel offices. He was also barred from 
>engaging in any ministry activity.
>
>The source told me the chaplain was told that if he violated those orders 
>he and his supervisor would be subjected to disciplinary action - with the 
>possibility of being fired.
>
>Ron Crews, executive director of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious 
>Liberty, called those developments disturbing.
>
>"Catholic military personnel should not have their religious liberties held 
>hostage by this funding crisis," Crews told me. "I find it alarming that 
>these priests cannot even volunteer to provide services without threat of 
>arrest."
>
>The archbishop said a priest at Joint Base Langley-Eustis was banned from 
>officiating at the wedding of a couple he'd been counseling.
>
>"The wedding could be on the base, but the priest can't do the wedding," 
>Broglio told me.
>
>A priest at the Naval Amphibious Base in Little Creek, Va., was told he 
>could not celebrate Mass on base because of the government shutdown. So he 
>discovered a way to circumvent the ban.
>
>"He's having Mass in a local park off base," the archbishop said.
>
>The archbishop said it doesn't make any sense to forbid priests from 
>voluntarily ministering to the troops.
>
>"Most of us don't look to see that we're going to be paid before we do 
>something," he said. "They are not being allowed to volunteer even to meet 
>the needs of the faithful."
>
>Bill Donohue, of the Catholic League, told me he's not surprised by the 
>decision to furlough Catholic priests.
>
>"In American history there has been no administration more anti-Catholic 
>than the Obama administration," he said. "For them to deny Catholic men and 
>women the opportunity of the sacraments and to deal with their prayerful 
>vocations is really a stunning statement."
>
>Donohue chalked it up to meanness.
>
>"This idea of punishing Catholics in the military - denying them their 
>priests - is consistent with the animus this administration has 
>demonstrated," he said.
>
>It's not exactly clear who is the final arbiter in the furloughs - but I 
>suspect it's the same folks who kicked school children out of the White 
>House and elderly veterans out of the World War II Memorial.
>
>"It's difficult to know who exactly is making these decisions," the 
>archbishop said. "I'm being told it keeps getting kicked up to a higher 
>level."
>
>I called the Pentagon but no one returned my calls.
>
>I called the Air Force public affairs office and they told me to reach out 
>to the local bases.
>
>Surely there must be some way to compromise, to let Catholics practice 
>their faith.
>
>I find it odd that the military was able to find enough cash to let their 
>football teams play this weekend - but they can't scrounge up enough cash 
>for weekend church services.
>
>"It's a sad contrast when we can let a football game go on but we won't let 
>a priest go on base and celebrate Mass," he said.
>
>So in President Obama's world - college football players are essential but 
>Catholic priests are not.
>
>
>Todd Starnes is host of Fox News & Commentary heard on hundreds of radio 
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>
>
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>
>This Godless president has used the Government shut down to slap us
>Catholics in the face once more.  It wasn't enough he is going to force 
>religious institutions to pay for coverage of its employees for artificial 
>contraception, and abortions.  Or will at least make a damn good attempt at 
>it.  But, today, he said Catholic priests along with government paid 
>contracted priests serving the military will not even be allowed by the 
>government to say mass or distribute the holy sacraments.  Military 
>Catholics the world over are told they must cancel their participation in 
>these sacraments.  Or must find a native priest not having to do with the 
>military to give to them the precious body and blood of our Lord while this 
>government shut down exists.
>Hearing this caused me to think of the old fashioned dictatorships of the 
>twentieth century.  Where the practice of our most
>Holy faith was prohibited upon the point of death.  Can you imagine such a 
>thing happening in America?  I never believed I would see such a thing at 
>all.  I will tell you this.  I will never again accept anything from this 
>government, if it allows such a thing to continue.  I might be forced to 
>participate in its atrocities by way of the affordable care program, the 
>paying of taxes, and such.  But, whatever things I am free to not accept I 
>will choose not to accept.  This government as it stands is a travesty of 
>what our founding fathers meant it to be, and is an atrocity.