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Michael Thurman <[log in to unmask]>
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you can do everything not he I phone with a braille display and speech turned off completely. that is one of the I phone's big features for the blind.
On Jun 8, 2013, at 10:39 AM, COLLEEN ROTH <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hello,
> I understand that a lot of people love Iphones and other touchscreen Devices.
> I would not feel comfortable with a Smartphone or Iphone because I do not want to have to listen to all of that stuff and figure out what to do.
> I like buttons to operate things. Personally, I do not care about all of those Apps.
> The only way I would consider a Smartphone is if all or most of the things I would do could be done via a Braille Display.
> That would include reading things with a Braille Display.
> I definitely do not want a Touch Screen on my Radio because I would hit the Panic Button too much if I thought I hit the wrong button.
> We each have to choose the path we walk.
> I have an Icom 2at with Thumb Wheels notched and a PL Board so I can use it independently.
> Colleen Roth, N8TNV;
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kelvin Marsh <[log in to unmask]>
> ,to3 [log in to unmask]
> Date: Saturday, June 8, 2013 4:46 am
> Subject: Re: Touch screens
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Colleen and All,
>> 
>> If the accessibility has been implemented properly, touch screen technology
>> can be easily used, and in the case of the Smartphone, can lead to the use
>> of apps that would never be found with a traditional device.  On this basis
>> I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.
>> 
>> Saying all that, there is a problem with touch screen technology that I've
>> not heard mentioned anywhere.  Basically, you need to be listening fully to
>> know what you are doing.  On a device with voice feedback and traditional
>> buttons, you can probably get most things done with only cursory attention
>> to the voice, because you remember the sequence of physical operation.
>> Using a touch screen needs you to be listening to the feedback completely at
>> every stage.
>> 
>> On a radio, this is not a useful function.  Ideally you will want to make
>> adjustments without any chatter that might distract you from the signal.  I
>> touch on this scenario in my review of the Kenwood TS-590, when pressing the
>> button to hear the sub VFO.  The frequency is announced by the voice every
>> time you press and release the button.  Fortunately, you can turn off the
>> automatic chatter, and it can be seen that Kenwood have given this some
>> careful thought.  Too much talk is as bad as not enough!  
>> 
>> Turning a silent physical control to adjust say Noise Reduction is likely to
>> be much more  comfortable for a blind operator, than  one being forced to
>> use a chattering touch screen.  It is for this same reason I prefer not to
>> use software to control a radio in real time.  The only audio I ideally want
>> to hear is the incoming signal, anything else can be  a distraction <big
>> smile>! 
>> 
>> Best wishes, Kelvin Marsh — M0AID
>> 
>> Working to improve accessibility for radio amateurs with disabilities
>> 
>> www.active-elements.org
>> 
>> For accessibility evaluations of amateur equipment and MP3 manuals
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of COLLEEN ROTH
>> Sent: 07 June 2013 23:01
> @> ,to3 [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Touch screens
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Amen to the button and knobs. That is precisely why I do not have a phone
>> with a Touchscreen.
>> Colleen Roth
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Miller <[log in to unmask]>
> @> 1to#c [log in to unmask]
>> Date: Friday, June 7, 2013 2:41 pm
>> Subject: Re: Touch screens
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I believe there is a radio out or coming out with a touch screen. I forget
>> 
>>> who makes it but I heard about it the other day. I'm sure I'd be fine with
>> a 
>>> touch screen, I have a couple things with the flat key pad like most 
>>> microwaves have and I do fine with them but am not comfortable with them, 
>>> don't like them and will do my best to avoid them and touch screens where 
>>> and when ever possible. I'm just not comfortable with them I'd rather have
>> 
>>> the buttons right there in front of me to push.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Dustin" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 2:00 PM
>>> Subject: Touch screens
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Do you guys ever think that ham radios will go to touch screens? Or
>> maybe 
>>>> th=
>>>> ere is already some radios with a touch screen. I wonder what it would
>> be 
>>>> li=
>>>> ke to use a radio running iOS. LOL like that would ever happen
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone=
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
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