The iPhone will work with most bluetooth braille displays.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "COLLEEN ROTH" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Touch screens


> Hello,
> I understand that a lot of people love Iphones and other touchscreen 
> Devices.
> I would not feel comfortable with a Smartphone or Iphone because I do not 
> want to have to listen to all of that stuff and figure out what to do.
> I like buttons to operate things. Personally, I do not care about all of 
> those Apps.
> The only way I would consider a Smartphone is if all or most of the things 
> I would do could be done via a Braille Display.
> That would include reading things with a Braille Display.
> I definitely do not want a Touch Screen on my Radio because I would hit 
> the Panic Button too much if I thought I hit the wrong button.
> We each have to choose the path we walk.
> I have an Icom 2at with Thumb Wheels notched and a PL Board so I can use 
> it independently.
> Colleen Roth, N8TNV;
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kelvin Marsh <[log in to unmask]>
> ,to3 [log in to unmask]
> Date: Saturday, June 8, 2013 4:46 am
> Subject: Re: Touch screens
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Colleen and All,
>>
>> If the accessibility has been implemented properly, touch screen 
>> technology
>> can be easily used, and in the case of the Smartphone, can lead to the 
>> use
>> of apps that would never be found with a traditional device.  On this 
>> basis
>> I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.
>>
>> Saying all that, there is a problem with touch screen technology that 
>> I've
>> not heard mentioned anywhere.  Basically, you need to be listening fully 
>> to
>> know what you are doing.  On a device with voice feedback and traditional
>> buttons, you can probably get most things done with only cursory 
>> attention
>> to the voice, because you remember the sequence of physical operation.
>> Using a touch screen needs you to be listening to the feedback completely 
>> at
>> every stage.
>>
>> On a radio, this is not a useful function.  Ideally you will want to make
>> adjustments without any chatter that might distract you from the signal. 
>> I
>> touch on this scenario in my review of the Kenwood TS-590, when pressing 
>> the
>> button to hear the sub VFO.  The frequency is announced by the voice 
>> every
>> time you press and release the button.  Fortunately, you can turn off the
>> automatic chatter, and it can be seen that Kenwood have given this some
>> careful thought.  Too much talk is as bad as not enough!
>>
>> Turning a silent physical control to adjust say Noise Reduction is likely 
>> to
>> be much more  comfortable for a blind operator, than  one being forced to
>> use a chattering touch screen.  It is for this same reason I prefer not 
>> to
>> use software to control a radio in real time.  The only audio I ideally 
>> want
>> to hear is the incoming signal, anything else can be  a distraction <big
>> smile>!
>>
>> Best wishes, Kelvin Marsh - M0AID
>>
>> Working to improve accessibility for radio amateurs with disabilities
>>
>> www.active-elements.org
>>
>> For accessibility evaluations of amateur equipment and MP3 manuals
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of COLLEEN ROTH
>> Sent: 07 June 2013 23:01
> @> ,to3 [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Touch screens
>>
>> Hi,
>> Amen to the button and knobs. That is precisely why I do not have a phone
>> with a Touchscreen.
>> Colleen Roth
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Miller <[log in to unmask]>
> @> 1to#c [log in to unmask]
>> Date: Friday, June 7, 2013 2:41 pm
>> Subject: Re: Touch screens
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > I believe there is a radio out or coming out with a touch screen. I 
>> > forget
>>
>> > who makes it but I heard about it the other day. I'm sure I'd be fine 
>> > with
>> a
>> > touch screen, I have a couple things with the flat key pad like most
>> > microwaves have and I do fine with them but am not comfortable with 
>> > them,
>> > don't like them and will do my best to avoid them and touch screens 
>> > where
>> > and when ever possible. I'm just not comfortable with them I'd rather 
>> > have
>>
>> > the buttons right there in front of me to push.
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Dustin" <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 2:00 PM
>> > Subject: Touch screens
>> >
>> >
>> > > Do you guys ever think that ham radios will go to touch screens? Or
>> maybe
>> > > th=
>> > > ere is already some radios with a touch screen. I wonder what it 
>> > > would
>> be
>> > > li=
>> > > ke to use a radio running iOS. LOL like that would ever happen
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my iPhone=
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
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