For a while 14.275 was no better, I don't know if that crew is still there
or not I haven't heard them in a while. 3.910 in regions 1 and 2 and some of
3 in the US is worse than anything I've heard on 14.313 though. Once in a
while they have an entertaining discussion, usually when they're all very
obviously drunk and/or high, and will admit it, but most often, it's idiocy
at it's finest. Not many of them are running legal band width for SSB, or
legal power but people for the most part leave them alone. What's funny is
once I was testing a radio with no voice read out and just stumbled to the
first signal I heard for a radio check, I was a new ham at the time, it
turned out to be this bunch in one of their calmer moments and they treated
me very well. I'd be afraid to go back though now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: The Sideband War
> That is why I always laugh when some old time ham operator hears about
> 14.313 and goes on and on at great length about the state of ham radio
> today
> etc etc.
> It's been the same since the beginning lol...nothing changes really as far
> as people being people.
> No kids, no lids, no space cadets.
> I hear an awful lot of whining that the FCC and industry Canada aren't
> doing
> anything about the 14.313 crue...again, this is nothing new and for the
> most
> part they are left to their own devices because they're not really
> bothering
> anyone except themselves.
> If they cracked down on the 14.313 gang, they'd have to crack down on
> hundreds, maybe thousands of others on 75 and 80 who are just as bad.
> The thing is that those yahoos on 20M can be heard over a much bigger area
> than anyone doing the same on 75...so the low band yahoos don't get the
> notariety that the ve6kfm's of this world get lol.
> It's like this, if you go to a restaurant, and you don't like the food, or
> you think it's just awful, it doesn't mean all restaurants are awful, and
> it
> won't effect or somehow impact your favorite restaurant.
> If you don't like it, don't go there. It's not like the bad restaurant's
> food is going to somehow make it's way into your favorite dish at your
> favorite restaurant.
> The 14.313ers stay there and you never ever hear those guys on any other
> frequencies...and if you do, they're behaving themselves.
>
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin G. McCormick" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:54 PM
> Subject: Re: The Sideband War
>
>
>> I was still a SWL in the sixties and remember the
>> sideband war vividly. It was going on as late as 1968 and 1969
>> and had all the same trappings as what you hear on 14.313 today.
>>
>> There is a subset of amateur operators who think this is
>> somehow okay. Back then, they were jamming and cursing each
>> other over sideband versus AM and today, it is the same behavior
>> over Heaven knows what. It's hard to tell because it just kind
>> of goes on and on for no particularly good reason.
>>
>> The only thing I can say is that when they are all on
>> 14.313 or 3.850 making fools of themselves, they are off all the
>> other frequencies and life is more civilized there. Think of it
>> as kind of a dummy load. Many of them like to use big amplifiers
>> and, if they would all aim at the same patch of ionosphere, they
>> could possibly heat it up enough to open up ten meters or maybe
>> even 6.
>>
>> Anyway, the sideband war was just the excuse for rotten
>> behavior for that day. The same personality types really don't
>> need an excuse to be idiots so there will always be scoff-laws
>> who don't really understand what amateur radio is all about.
>>
>> Thanks for a good bit of history.
>>
>> 73, Martin
>> "Ronald E. Milliman" writes:
>>> Re the Sideband war
>>>
>>> When sideband was first introduced, it was double sideband; that is,
>>> both
>>> sidebands were transmitted, but the carrier was suppressed. Thus, the
>>> signal still took up about the same bandwidth, but all of the
>>> transmitting
>>> energy was put in the audio component of the signal and not wasting
>>> power
>>> in the production and transmission of an unnecessary carrier.
>>
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