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John Miller <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:06:44 -0500
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You can do it without an interface, that's true for any digital mode that's 
useable by a sound card interface but with an interface will always be more 
reliable. In a pinch though, you can do PSK31, and other sound card digital 
modes with a mic in front of the speaker and it will work if you happen to 
have the volume at a good level for it. I've done some of the modes that way 
but it really is so much easier and more reliable with an interface and of 
the interfaces I've tried, the signalink is probably the best with 
rigblaster second.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray T. Mahorney" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: fl didgy


> curious does digipan use the waterfall and how well does it work from the 
> screen reader side? What I
> found with FLDigi was that the thing didn't present as keyboard friendly 
> at all.  Just as an insight
> to the way these guys operate it when we were testing FLDigi we had two 
> laptops sitting next to each
> other the theory being that a device such as a signalink interface isn't 
> always necessary.  While
> both machines were able to send and receive the digital data I am still 
> not convinced of the
> reliability of acoustic coupling.  Thoughts?
>
>
> Ray T. Mahorney
> WA4WGA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
> On Behalf Of Patrick Tice
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 16:16
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: fl didgy
>
> I've brought this up to the local guys here in Minnesota, too.  They are
> just not aware of the accessibility issue with FLDigi.  As an aside not
> directly related to accessibility, I sat through a pretty good 
> presentation
> on FLDigi  during a radio club program. I downloaded and installed it, but
> found the setup to be a hassle - maybe it was just me, since I hadn't been
> on any digital modes for quite some time.  (RTFM, right?)
>
> Still, to compare, I reinstalled Digipan and it was up and running in no
> time. I ended up having to do some web searches to figure out the way to 
> get
> FLDigi to talk with the radio.   But the point here is that although there
> are lots of bells and whistles, whenever something is complicated and
> feature-rich there seems to be a steeper learning curve.  In a real
> emergency, you would have to be darned sure everyone who is set up with 
> this
> system has used it successfully and trained on it over and over or you 
> will
> end up with tech support hassles and lots of frustration.  The more
> complicated things are, the more brittle they become.  And complication
> usually also means bad or no accessibility for some parts of a program
> interface.
>
> Our club has started regular digital nets, so maybe I will try to learn 
> more
> about digital in that environment.  I really like it when things are
> simpler, though...  This morning while writing this post I started FLDigi
> and immediately got an error message from the library file, though I was
> able to receive on it after intervention with the mouse. (I can see the
> screen.)  By comparison I started Digipan and it loaded immediately, and 
> was
> receiving automatically.
>
> 73 - Pat
>
> Regards,
>
> Patrick Tice
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of John Miller
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 9:19 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: fl didgy
>
> The only thing I've found is use other programs, FLDigi is not accessible
> and the author basically told me "too bad" when I asked him about it. For
> everything except NBEMS, there is an alternative program you can use, when
> it comes to NBEMS we're out of luck until someone comes up with something
> better. I have the local ARES leadership contacting the program author 
> about
> it, seeing if he can be persuaded to care but for me personally his answer
> was to use digitalk for some aspects of the program which won't work on 
> any
> computer I have setup for radio stuff right now and not to bother him,
> bother the author of that program instead. When I told him everything I 
> have
> is XP or newer and it won't work, I pretty much got the old "go back to 
> the
> author of FLDIGI for now I'll work on it if there's a lot of demand but no
> matter what it won't work on all aspects of the program anyway". So, 
> that's
> as far as I got and as I said, I just let everyone in the area know about
> it, none of them seem to care it's their new pet project but it's popular 
> in
> MARS as well and for all modes they do and all but I have alternative
> programs for everything except NBEMS which really is one of those things,
> some groups are loving it, others aren't touching it so I'm not too 
> worried
> about it right now.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray T. Mahorney" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 9:29 AM
> Subject: fl didgy
>
>
>> Summit county ARES and Portage county have been playing with this
>> http://www.w1hkj.com/download.html
>> This appears to be a package which supports multiple digital formats.
>> Here's the problem it renders
>> as a waterfall display very similar to HRD.  Has anyone played with
>> this and is there a work around for the display issues?
>>
>>
>>
>> Ray T. Mahorney
>> WA4WGA 

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