Doris,

I was filled with the Holy Spirit at age 30 by myself in the basement of my 
home.  I never spoke in tongues until three years later.

Phil.





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From: "Doris and Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: Pray Without Ceasing - Tongues?


> That's what the Lord tells me in my middle when I talk to him. The little 
> tradition I come from, rejects speaking in tongues while several of my 
> friends insnist on it being a sign of a true born-again Christian.  I 
> think one is as wrong as the other.
>
> I've  never personally felt the need or desire to speak in tongues but am 
> glad for th ose who find expression and access to God when they use the 
> gift.
> Actually, as a much younger Christian I sometimes longed for the gift of 
> tongues when I feltI had no words or may prayer just went to the ceiling 
> or lower still , i wished I could speak in tongues. Today I think that 
> when it gets to middle stuff, I think a lot of that is beyond words 
> anyway. A lot of deep stuff is. Often with Chrhis and me, we know what the 
> other thinks anyway and there is no need for words. Sometimes when I share 
> deep with Papito, I ask him if he can see my middle and even more often he 
> does and sometimes before I do like a daddy does. And if people like Chris 
> or Papito don't - and Ned doesn't believe in angel speak but just in 
> "tongues" as being able to speak other languages like Spanish or German - 
> then Mr. God sure doesn't because he is in the middle and all around and 
> he made us in the first place knitting needles and all. The gifts we get 
> are to help us to help God do his God stuff whether Angel Speak so we have 
> a channel for beyond words stuff if that helps us because God's loves to 
> hear from us or whether it is the gift of using languages to preach to 
> other people - or, I bet, language in any sense not just for preaching but 
> for writing and writing songs and music and painting with words in 
> whatever form.
>
> Isn't there some song about one's life being a song or prayer to God in 
> the first place? I have half-remembered lyrics in the back of my mind ever 
> since us starting this subject - not tongues but the ceaseless prayer - 
> but I don't remember lyrics really nor a tune. Oh well.
>
> Thanks for your confirmation on the subject, Mr. Phil.
>
> In his loving grip!
>
> Doris
>
>
> At 12:31 PM 8/14/2013 -0600, you wrote:
>>Doris,
>>
>>You are correct.  Tongues is a spiritual gift, which means, no one needs, 
>>or has to, speak in tongues.  It belongs in the prayer category due to its 
>>twofold nature.  However, anyone who says you have to speak in tongues for 
>>any reason isn't interpreting Scripture correctly.  Pray without ceasing 
>>isn't tongues but it could be used at times in the process; it's just not 
>>a requirement.
>>
>>Phil.
>>
>