Hi Butch, Radio shack used to sell a turn stile that could probably be
used with a 6 to 1 ballon, or, you could build a simple ground plane,
about 28 inches should work. Of course, even a simple dipole would work
better than a rubber duck, slash dummyload! GRIN!
73:
John'
John Jacques
Amateur Radio Station: KD8PC
"Where Cat Is, Is Civilization!"