cool, I think I will get one of the antennas suggested that just 
stand up if you guys can direct me to good places to get some of those 
types of antennas.  No, the 160 meter wouldn't be a great losss, but I 
just want to co er as much as I can, lol.  Hopefully, this guy t\still 
has the radio.

Eden


On 7/17/2012 2:52 PM, Steve wrote:
> It's hard to use the 160 band on any urban setting without making a
> significantly compromised antenna just because of the long wavelength.  It's
> not a huge loss unless you really enjoy 160, and then really only in the
> non-summer seasons when there's less QRN.
>
> And, Eden, since you have woods back of your apartment, I'll bet you could
> throw up a thin wire that nobody would see.  I know hams that have done that
> when they were in antenna-restricted areas.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eden Kizer
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:35 PM
> Subject: Re: apartment dwelling antennas
>
>
>       YOu are lucky, but I guess that means I won't be able to use the
> 160 meter band as you said it went from 80 down.  No way my apt would
> ever let me do that.  what you did, I mean.
>
> Eden
>
> On 7/17/2012 11:27 AM, Jim Gammon wrote:
>    
>> The Alpha 1 and Mp-1 are supposed to work on 80 to 6 meters.  The
>> philosophy or approach for each is different.  The interesting
>> thing about the Alpha is that the matchbox is supposed to do all
>> the work other then your tuner, so you don't have to go out and
>> physically change the antenna length when you change bands.  But
>> I think you lose some efficiency as a result of that.  So there's
>> no getting around the fact that small antennas are just going to
>> be compromises no matter how you cut it.  I am really lucky here.
>> Also living in an apartment, I asked the landlord if I could put
>> up a Shortwave antenna and he said sure, long as it doesn't mess
>> up the visual quality of the building.  I have a Windom that uses
>> a couple of 5 foot PVC pipes to support the wire about 4 to 5
>> feet above the roof.  The feed point is on a pole with a vertical
>> for 2 and 70 centimeters that is attached to a clothes line pole
>> down between two apartment buildings if that makes any sense.
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>      
>