If I couldn't put up antennas I just wouldn't move there, simple as that. 
I'm in a trailer park now and a couple people in the past were told no but 
in looking at all the scanner and fm radio antennas, nothing I have is much 
higher than they are when you figure in the masts there's just a couple more 
of them here but I run filtering, good coax,  and do my best to make sure 
there's not going to be a problem. Funny thing is how close the HF antenna 
is to the metal buildings, according to the specs it should never work this 
way but it does if a bit directional. I'm hoping the metal buildings shield 
me from causing any interference, it seems to here.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Wells" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: if I can't have my hobby back, I don't want to live!


> Right on Buddy! I was off the air for more than 20 years. I lived. I am
> thankful to be back on the air for now. If I have to move to a place
> where I can't have antennas, I'll live then also. Echo Link didn't work
> for me for a while until I got the UDP ports opened and got my license
> verified with them. That, to me was harder than opening ports on my
> router's firewall. Guess what? I lived through that as well. As far as
> I know, I'll live until I die, but I do not believe that ham radio will
> be a determining factor on when my demise occurs.
>
> Original message:
>> Wah wah wah wah. You're not the only guy to ever operate from an =
>> apartment. Think you've got it tough? What about all those hams in =
>> Tokyo? And, apparently you *don't* read QST, because, sad to say, there =
>> are lots of hams who live in areas where, for various reasons, they =
>> can't put up big antennas. Not just apartments, but condos and homes in =
>> deed-restricted areas. There's lots of information on stealth operating =
>> if you care to look for it. Except whining is easier, right? If I can't =
>> have my hobby, I on't want to live=85overdramatic muh?=20
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>
>
>
>> On Jun 24, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Steve <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>> Oh, spare us, Trippy.  What would be the point of a contest if it were =
>> over=20
>>> VOIP?
>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>> From: Harry Brown
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 4:40 AM
>>> Subject: if I can't have my hobby back, I don't want to live!
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> Hi all,
>>> Well, here's where we are in getting me on echo link and hf remote =3D
>>> bases.
>>> Were not!
>>> First, for the 3rd time, my friend, Rick, wo8m, scanned and faxed my 
>>> =3D=
>
>>> license to the folks at echo link.
>>> It said my license is unreadable, so, no validation!
>>> Then, a firewall test failure!
>>> Here's what the test said.
>>> "Windows XP Service Pack 3
>>> Local IP address: 192.168.1.78
>>> Firewall Test Results: FAIL
>>> The test successfully connected to the EchoLink server on TCP port =
>> 5200. =3D
>>> This means that your system's TCP configuration is correct for use =
>> with =3D
>>> EchoLink.
>>> The tester did not receive a response for some of the UDP tests.  If =
>> you =3D
>>> have a router or firewall installed, be sure its Port Forwarding =
>> feature =3D
>>> is correctly set. (See Help for details.)"
>>> Trippy's comment, where in the heck do I go on the echolink web site? =
>> =3D
>>> I'll try to find the help, but who knows!
>>> Now, back to the results.
>>> "If you have Internet security software installed, be sure it is =3D
>>> configured to allow EchoLink to access the Internet.
>>> There appears to be a router between this computer and the Internet.  =
>> A =3D
>>> router normally requires special configuration for use with EchoLink."
>>> Folks, that's a crock of crap, because I have no router, just a dsl =3D
>>> modem, what are they drinking?
>>> For more information, click the Help button above, or see the Firewall =
>> =3D
>>> Solutions page on the EchoLink Web site.
>>> What a disaster this is.
>>> Ya know folks, all is nightmare could be prevented if they just let =3D
>>> contests go on cq100, God, all this could be prevented, all of it. All =
>> =3D
>>> these people who have nice yards, and they can get on hf, and those of =
>> =3D
>>> us who live in places where we can't, like apartments, and condos, =
>> what =3D
>>> a heck of a mess! And what bugs me the most is, the ARRL, witch I will =
>> =3D
>>> not join, because people like me, who are in the minority.  The ARRL, =
>> =3D
>>> and most hams, don't give a crap. None of them think about this =3D
>>> situation, none of them. What will they do, when they can no longer =
>> live =3D
>>> where they have a yard to put up antennas?
>>> This hobby is diing, because of these kind of things, and the =
>> attitudes. =3D
>>> If they would only put contests on cq100, (all contests), then I =3D
>>> wouldn't be going through all this. The powers that are intrenched, =
>> just =3D
>>> think contests should be on hf, well, really, radio only!
>>> Well, Monday night, on that balcony, will decide what's gonna happen 
>>> =3D=
>
>>> with my ham future. If that tuner does what it's suppose to do, great, =
>> =3D
>>> if not, what can I say, but cq100, for the rest of my life, and even 
>>> =3D=
>
>>> that's declining, down hill. People are leaving in droves, the ham =
>> rules =3D
>>> aren't being enforced.
>>> It's killing me folks. You might think I'm over dramatic, but if I =
>> can't =3D
>>> have my hobby back, I don't need to live.
>>> There's nothing worse than a life, with your hobbies taken away from =
>> ya. =3D
>>> I know hams in this town, right now, who cannot get on the air, many 
>>> =3D=
>
>>> many of them. I ask "why", and they say, "Trippy, I can't put up =3D
>>> antennas where I live.
>>> " Or, "I'm too old to climb towers, and string wires, and all that =3D
>>> stuff, and nobody has time. And 99% of the hams in this country could =
>> =3D
>>> care less, and they won't let ham radio come to cq100, where we don't =
>> =3D
>>> have firewall issues, port forwarding issues, issues with skype, =
>> issues =3D
>>> with hf remote base software. But we do have the bands, the =
>> frequencies. =3D
>>> Now, all we need is, all the hams to come over there, and we'll have 
>>> =3D=
>
>>> everything we have on hf, and no antennas that you can't put up, =
>> either =3D
>>> because of where you live, or, because you're too old to do all this 
>>> =3D=
>
>>> antenna stuff, and your body and/or mind, won't let you any more.
>>> I feel for sister Alverna, wa0sgj, in Rochester, Mn, who can't get on =
>> =3D
>>> the air, because no hams in that city will go over there and get her =
>> on =3D
>>> the air., I wish I could get her on the fricken air myself, but I =
>> can't, =3D
>>> but I feel for her, she's just another casualty.
>>> I'd love you to send my email to ARRL, you have, for sure, my =3D
>>> permission. They have no idea about those of us out here, and what =
>> they =3D
>>> either don't care to see, or, what they fail to see is, in the future =
>> =3D
>>> they will be in the same situation as people like me are in. We will =
>> all =3D
>>> get older, we will all be where we can't put up antennas, due to space =
>> =3D
>>> limits, or, our bodies and/or minds will fail.
>>> Trippy, ac8s=20