Hi,
Some Control Ops can turn off a Repeater via phone. Some Control Ops have a code they can punch in using the radio to turn the Repeater off.
I had to do this when we had someone with an Amateur Radio License who had mental problems. He called 911 on the Autopatch to make a rather bizarre false report.
I then called the Trustee of the Repeater and the Local Police he had called.
The Trustee of the Repeater also called this Police Station in a Suburban town where one of the sites for the Repeater was located.
Personally I think you have to remember that your call is on the line if someone is operating from your station. I would rather be safe than sorry so I stay within a short range of my radio. Of course I can just flip the circuit breaker which controls my radio if I am closer to the circuit box than to my radio.
I have seen some people who did fine when they were operating as third parties and I have seen some people who don't.
I choose to identify my station and mention that someone (give name) is operating as a third party.
This is just what I choose to do.
Colleen Roth, N8TNV;
----- Original Message -----
From: John Miller <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Saturday, Aug 11, 2012 07:52:42 AM
Subject: Re: Third party rules.
>
>
> They can but if the person causing a problem is a mile away and the control
> station is 5 miles away, the control station can't do much from that
> distance because the other person's stronger, hence the reason for a second
> receiver on another band. I have to admit I don't even have that on mine yet
> but am working on it. I do have contact with workers in the building the
> repeater's in though and if I need to shut it off in a hurryeaI can call one
> of them to pull the plug, they can't do much else since the rack cabinet is
> locked and it's 20 feet up in a loft with no easy way up to it but it's
> plugged in somewhat low so they can get to the plug. There's someone there
> 24/7 which is nice. There's not much chance of a problem on 900 MHz though
> since for a while we controlled who had access to the band in this area. Now
> stinko alinco has a radio for that band to it's a little more open but I
> must admit I've only heard one of those radios so far, everyone still uses
> the Motorola's, Kenwoods, and Johnsons around here, Motorola mostly and I do
> a lot of the programming.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 12:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Third party rules.
>
>
> > John,
> >
> > Isn't that the purpose of a repeater's control station? The control
> > station
> > can disable the repeater if necessary, although not too many stations do
> > so.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 22:21
> > Subject: Re: Third party rules.
> >
> >
> >arI don't see why not, if it's on vox or you hit the PTT, if something
> >arhappens
> >ar and you need to stop the transmition fast you can still do it if you're
> >ar patching someone else in through your station. then the whole topic of
> >ar repeaters comes up where you can't unless you can over power the other
> >ar station and shut it off if someone's doing something wrong, not many have
> >ar that option, a second receiver on another frequency is a much better
> >ar option
> >ar but I only know of one or 2 around here doing that.
> >ar ----- Original Message -----
> >ar From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
> >ar To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >ar Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 10:15 PM
> >ar Subject: Re: Third party rules.
> >ar
> >ar
> >>> Yep, I agree. A similar discussion use to come up many years ago when
> >>> we ran phone patches with the radios on vox. Some said I really wasn't
> >>> controlling my station that is causing it to transmit. FCC said it was
> >>> o.k. as I was still really in control and responsible.
> >>> 73
> >>> Butch
> >>> WA0VJR
> >>> Node 3148
> >>> Wallace, ks.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 10 Aug
> >>> 2012, Michael Thurman wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> what the rules specifically say are that you must ensure that your =
> >>>> statio operates according to the rules and it leaves it up to you how
> >>>> to
> >>>> =
> >>>> do it. for example if you know you can assure legal operation you can
> >>>> be
> >>>> =
> >>>> across the room or on the other side of the house as long as you are =
> >>>> willing to trust your license to the legal operation of your station. =
> >>>> back before I got my license my elmer would just let me operate with
> >>>> his
> >>>> =
> >>>> call sign because he knew I would follow the rules he set down for me.
> >>>> =
> >>>> same goes for my girlfriend I will let her work hf and I know she will
> >>>> =
> >>>> follow the rules, so I can gt a drink or do something else while she is
> >>>> =
> >>>> operatingdd=20
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >ar
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