Trippy,
While I certainly don't want to see our hobby go down the drain, I'm afraid
that in this case, the cure may be worse than the disease. I don't feel the
need to confront every ham who I think displays bad operating practices; I'd
rather follow good operating practices myself and thus lead by example.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Brown" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 13:04
Subject: Re: License Renewal?
> Hi Buddy,
> Well, as a ham for 35 years, I will confront on the air, absolutely I =
> will.
> This is our hobby, we must police it, ourselves, and I will be one of =
> those hams who will do it.
> Will any of you join me?
> I didn't study and get all these licenses to see our hobby go down the =
> drain.
> Trippy, ac8s
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Buddy Brannan=20
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 5:58 PM
> Subject: Re: License Renewal?
>
>
> Trippy,
>
> I think I get why they call you Trippy, because, like, you're way, way =
> =3D
> out there man.=3D20
>
> First of all, this isn't ham radio, it's an Email list. Fortunately, =
> we =3D
> don't have to ID every 10 minutes on Email lists, or anything else =
> like =3D
> that. If anything, we should use the "lingo" of Internet culture, =
> since =3D
> this is the Internet. But all of that is pretty moot anyhow.
>
> As for we should "talk the ham radio lingo" and "people who don't =
> should =3D
> be confronted", jeez, I dunno, but I think you're in a different hobby =
> =3D
> than I am.=3D20
>
> The only thing incumbent upon hams is that we follow the rules set =
> forth =3D
> for us by our governing boies and international law. That's it. It is =
> =3D
> also incumbent upon us to comport ourselves in civil fashion, =
> especially =3D
> if we want kids to get involved. If anything, we should probably avoid =
> =3D
> as much jargon as possible, although some of it is just culture. =
> Jargon =3D
> for its own sake is just silly and pretentious. Basically, we follow =
> =3D
> country specific and international regulations an we don't act like =
> =3D
> assholes. That's pretty much the deal.=3D20
>
> That's all.=3D20
>
> It is not your place, or for that matter, anyone else's, to correct =
> =3D
> someone on the air for what you perceive to be operating =
> deficiencies.=3D20=3D
>
>
> But here's the biggest thing.
>
> Ham radio's supposed to be fun. Remember that? Fun? It's, like, what =
> =3D
> you're supposed to do with a hobby. Have fun. If it isn't fun, then =
> stop =3D
> doing it. Yes, we need to not be assholes on the air. Yes, we need to =
> =3D
> conduct ourselves with a certain amount of decorum, so that we present =
> =3D
> our hobby as one that's friendly and welcoming to all kinds of people, =
> =3D
> young and old. But once it becomes so rigid that a "73's" is a hanging =
> =3D
> offense, it isn't fun anymore.=3D20
>
> Sheesh. I never hear this kind of stuff on the cw bands. I think I'll =
> =3D
> stay there.
>
> 73rd's, and over and out,
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>
>
>
> On Jun 7, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Harry Brown <[log in to unmask]> =3D
> wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> > I'm not getting lost!
> > Look folks, if we're ham operators, then let's talk like ham radio =
> =3D3D
> > operators.
> > I don't know how you all feel, but what really bugs me as well is, =
> =3D
> when =3D3D
> > we're on the air, and hams, not as much newbees, but hams who have =
> =3D
> been =3D3D
> > hams for God knows how long, don't act like it, those people should =
> be =3D
> =3D3D
> > confronted.
> > Even though we're not on the air, at the moment, it's still =
> important, =3D
> =3D3D
> > that we use the ham lingo.
> > This 73s crap is not ham like.
> > 73,
> > Trippy, ac8s
> > ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20
> > From: Steve=3D3D20
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: License Renewal?
> >=3D20
> >=3D20
> > Hey Harry,=3D3D20
> >=3D20
> > Get lost.
> >=3D20
> > ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20
> > From: Harry Brown=3D3D20
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 2:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: License Renewal?
> >=3D20
> >=3D20
> > HI all,
> > Please, can we stop with the 73's?
> > We're suppose to be hams here, not chicken banders.
> > I'm not alone, when it comes to that, either.
> > A very well known ham, nationally, has this pet peeve as well, and =
> I =3D
> =3D3D
> > =3D3D3D
> > also do.
> > This is not cb, this is ham radio, and if you're gonna be a ham, =
> talk =3D
> =3D3D
> > =3D3D3D
> > the talk!
> > 73,
> > Trippy, ac8s
> > ----- Original Message -----=3D3D3D20
> > From: Howard, W A 9 Y B W=3D3D3D20
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 8:38 AM
> > Subject: License Renewal?
> >=3D20
> >=3D20
> > Hi Howard,
> >=3D20
> > This is Howard #3.
> >=3D20
> > About 4 years ago I renewed my license on the FCC website and I =
> =3D3D
> > didn't =3D3D3D
> > =3D3D3D3D
> > have=3D3D3D3D20
> > any trouble. There site is very accessible.
> >=3D20
> > Before you can use their Universal Licensing System, you need to =
> =3D
> get =3D3D
> > =3D3D3D
> > an =3D3D3D3D
> > ID=3D3D3D3D20
> > number from them. This also can be done online and the number =
> will =3D
> =3D3D
> > =3D3D3D
> > be=3D3D3D3D20
> > e-mailed to you immediately.
> >=3D20
> > If you are reasonably proficient at filling out forms online, =
> this =3D
> =3D3D
> > =3D3D3D
> > whole =3D3D3D3D
> >=3D20
> > process can be completed in less than half an hour at most.
> >=3D20
> > On a scale of 1 (easy) to 10 (hard) this exercise is about a 3 =
> in =3D
> =3D3D
> > =3D3D3D
> > my=3D3D3D3D20
> > opinion.
> >=3D20
> > The hardest thing is to figure out what website to go to.
> >=3D20
> > If anyone is interested, I will look up the address and post it =
> =3D3D
> > here.
> >=3D20
> > If you are able to get an Amateur license than you are smart =
> enough =3D
> =3D3D
> > to =3D3D3D
> > =3D3D3D3D
> > renew=3D3D3D3D20
> > it independently.
> >=3D20
> > 73's
> >=3D20
> > Howard #3, W A 9 Y B W
>
|
