Hi Pat,
I loved your post, absolutely!
I'm glad you expect them to meet their goals, that is cool!
Trippy, ac8s
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pat Byrne 
  To: [log in to unmask] 
  Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:32 PM
  Subject: Re: Man O Man


  When I was in the coffee shop business, the state of Illinois offers 
  an equivalent program but they stay pretty well butted in.  I chose 
  to do it my way and invented the job as I went along.  Had great 
  managers in the shops and they helped me invent the best way to do 
  things.  One of their fathers was a long, long time blind V A 
  employee who had a whole lot to do with reading machine development 
  in the sixties and seventies so she was right at home with me.  The 
  rest hadn't known or certainly worked for a blind guy before but were 
  helpful, cheerful and honest with the money.  I never made what I had 
  hoped to make but it was a wonderful part of my life and the blind 
  guy was really out there and that, too is important for the 
  public.  In the life before coffee I was a mainframe COBOL programmer 
  for twenty-five years and that provided a very good living.  My wife, 
  too who is blind wrote software for as long as I did.  And now I work 
  in the social services industry at a Center for Independent 
  Living.  Some of my clients get P O ed at me because I expect them to 
  really meet their goals, and not just talk about it!!  What an old grouch!!
  It's all been great in different ways.
  Sorry for the rant but . . .
  Pat, K9JAU At 08:10 PM 3/22/2012, you wrote:
  >I have always provided my own adaptive things to work.  I have sometimes
  >asked for a little help when I got into a bind, but I always find it better
  >if I fit myself to a job rather then making the job fit itself to me.  After
  >all no one provides sighted people with everything they need either.  I am
  >really glad when Employers say Hey good show, we really appreciate your good
  >work, and we would like to keep you here, so we will help a little.  That
  >always makes me feel good.
  >----- Original Message -----
  >From: "Pat Byrne" <[log in to unmask]>
  >To: <[log in to unmask]>
  >Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 5:13 PM
  >Subject: Re: Man O Man
  >
  >
  > > Since we're a half mile off topic, I'll say:
  > > I did most of my job seeking and changing prior to ADA.  I personally
  > > wonder if ADA puts employers off and that could make it overall
  > > harder to get work.  And in the old days I would bring some of my own
  > > stuff to work and perhaps the mind set is different now.  I think I
  > > am damned glad my job seeking days are over, but I am still casually
  > > looking for something else to do.
  > > Pat, K9JAUAt 07:46 AM 3/22/2012, you wrote:
  > >>The problem is, their are no teeth in the ADA.  No penalties, no respect.