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Blake Hailey <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:53:44 -0600
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I listened to the RAIN report.  Hap interviewed the publisher of CQ about
going digital and he didn't ask if it would be accessible.  He is usually
good about that.  


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 10:40 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Inaccessible Reader Medium for Ham Radio Publications

Wow. WorldRadio used to be just plain old PDF's. I guess I shouldn't've =
stopped reading it.
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Dec 17, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Patrick Tice wrote:

> Justin and the list,
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> Here is a link to a current Worldradio article for testing:
> http://www.zinio.com/pages/WorldRadioOnline/Dec-11/416199934/pg-68
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> I only get the print version of CQ, so I can't send a link to that =
one.=20
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> 73,
> Pat
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> Regards,
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> Patrick Tice
> [log in to unmask]
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators =
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Justin Mann
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 5:23 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Inaccessible Reader Medium for Ham Radio Publications
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> Pat,
> 've had god luck reading zinio magazines from my iPhone.  I'd be =
curious
> trying to test "World Radio" and "Cq"  Can you send a link to both? =20=

> Thanks
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> On Dec 16, 2011, at 5:00 PM, Patrick Tice wrote:
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>> Greetings, Listers!
>>=20
>> I've been away from the list for a while, mostly depending on the =
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>> archives to help me answer questions Handiham members ask me.  Now =
I'm=20
>> =3D back again because I want to bring forward a troubling new=20
>> development. We =3D all know that we are on the cusp of a major =
change=20
>> in the publishing world.
>> While digital publication can greatly enhance accessibility to blind=20=

>> computer users, we cannot necessarily assume that new publishing=20
>> formats will necessarily be compliant with accepted accessibility=20
>> standards.  To illustrate this, I am pasting the following message=20
>> that I received from =3D the Zinio Support folks, then I will fill =
you=20
>> in a bit more.  Here is the
>> e-mail:=3D20
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>> Hello,
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>> Thank you for contacting Zinio Customer Support.=3D20
>>=20
>> Unfortunately Zinio publications are not compatible with screen=20
>> readers, =3D we apologize for the inconvenience.
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>> If I can be of further assistance, please let me know.
>>=20
>> Kind regards,
>>=20
>> Eric Folsom
>> Zinio Customer Support
>>=20
>> Okay, this is pretty much what I suspected because I was unable to
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>> highlight any text in the Zinio Reader, and the browser-based version=20=

>> gave similar results.  However, the publications Zinio supports are=20=

>> searchable for keywords, so there must be some sort of embedded text=20=

>> underlying the graphical text presentation.  I am by no means a=20
>> screenreader user =3D myself since I can see the pages, but NVDA =
hadn't=20
>> a clue as to the main body =3D text in any of the pages when tested =
with=20
>> Worldradio Online Magazine, which =3D does use the Zinio system along=20=

>> with CQ and many other magazines.  The Zinio Reader does include easy=20=

>> to use font resizing, but the lack of =3D screenreader support is=20
>> troubling. =3D20
>>=20
>> As I said, we are going to find more and more publications on line in=20=

>> =3D the coming years, most sooner rather than later.  In the January=20=

>> 2012 QST =3D there is a mention of the anticipated mid-year rollout =
of a=20
>> digital version of QST.  I want to emphasize that I have no=20
>> information on which publishing platform ARRL will be using and=20
>> whether it will be screenreader =3D accessible, but it is painfully=20=

>> apparent that inaccessible design can be carried =3D forward into the=20=

>> new publishing medium.  This is shown clearly in the step =3D =
backwards=20
>> from Worldradio Online in PDF with embedded text several issues ago =3D=
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>> prior to the change to the Zinio Reader versus the current "apologize=20=

>> for the inconvenience" situation we have now.  =3D20
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>> I don't fault the Worldradio Online people for this - they are simply=20=

>> =3D using an on line publishing company.  And in fair disclosure, I =
do=20
>> write the =3D "With the Handihams" column that appears regularly in =
WR. =20
>> But I think that =3D any company that delivers online media, =
especially=20
>> digital print =3D publications for heaven's sake, should be able to=20=

>> provide screenreader access.=3D20
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>> Can we start a civil discussion about this, and put together some =
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>> =3D of informational message and action plan about what should be=20
>> expected regarding accessibility?  I know that the ADA does not=20
>> necessarily =3D require accessibility, but we all know that it is the=20=

>> right thing to do, and =3D that it is also not a good business plan =
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>> exclude potential readers.  =3D20
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>> 73,
>> Pat
>> [log in to unmask]
>>=20
>> Regards,=3DA0
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>> Patrick Tice, M.A. | Manager, Courage Handiham System | PH:=20
>> 763.520.0511 =3D
>> |
>> Courage Center | 3915 Golden Valley Road | Golden Valley, MN 55422
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>> [log in to unmask] | CourageCenter.org
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