Angel,
So, since we don't agree on doctrinal positions and interpretation of some
Scriptures, am I a liar because it doesn't follow the interpretation of the
Catholic church or you?
Phil.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: Just read the book
>I will not read the book. For the reasons I previously stated. Many in
>this world have different beliefs than do I about all sorts of things from
>. John Calvin, to Charles Taze Russell, to Joseph Smith. All claiming to
>base their beliefs on scriptural accuracy. Each of whom have flawed
>reasoning, in my opinion. Of course you are free, as you have done, to
>disagree with me on everything. That is your right. About which I
>wouldn't gainsay you. I dare say, I need not have to know about the
>experiences of others regarding either heaven or hell. I
> Shall be having my own experiences in good time. So why should I care to
> read about those of others? When such are so personal, and can be so
> easily contrived by others to make a dollar or million. ----- Original
> Message -----
> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:10 PM
> Subject: Just read the book
>
>
>> Angel,
>>
>> After you've read the book, and all the confirming Scriptures used in the
>> book to verify the miracle, then tell us how your beliefs are superior to
>> everyone else's believing in Bible doctrine and theology. But you aren't
>> going to do that, are you? You are going to keep running down everyone
>> else who has read it as being gullible, easily fooled and misguided, so
>> called Bible believers. I still say you are just simply afraid to read
>> it because you would rather believe in a belief system than in Scripture
>> itself even when Scripture is clearly experienced by a Bible believer.
>>
>> Phil.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little boy's
>> astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>
>>
>>>I am not angry,, I apologize if it seems that I am,. I just can't
>>>understand for the life of me why protestants find it so hard to believe
>>>in some Catholic teachings, such as those claiming the Saints are
>>>interceding for us constantly in heaven, and that they constantly are
>>>with us on earth watching over us with our personal angels. They being
>>>the cloud of witnesses of which Saint Paul spoke, and they so easily
>>>accept something they read from a book shelf. Almost as if it were
>>>gospel itself? It seems to me, protestants will bee almost willing to
>>>believe anything from almost anyone who claims it to be true. Some are
>>>almost as bad as those who believe the shroud of Turin is real. When
>>>Saint Paul didn't even recount what he saw in heaven, and don't you think
>>>he would have at least raved about how he saw Saint Steven there. If he
>>>saw him. Because, we know he suffered from the guilt over the part he
>>>played in his martyrdom, if he saw him in heaven. Why should I believe
>>>any modern recounts of heavenly experiences. When, in order for A Saint
>>>to be canonized, two miracles must be verified as having been done by
>>>that Saint. It is those recounting from such Saints as Paul and John in
>>>whom I put my trust concerning heavenly accounts. I ask, what is the
>>>litmus test to which you all have put this recounting from this young man
>>>whom no one on the list knows personally? Now I am not saying the
>>>experiences themselves aren't real experiences. I am just saying why I
>>>don't believe they should be taken at face value. Only God knows whether
>>>those experiences weren't hallucinations. My late husband suffered from
>>>a load of those. Each of which seemed perfectly real to him. I know what
>>>they were too, because he spoke each he saw.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Donna Bell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little boy's
>>> astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> I haven't read the book yet, but I intend too. My first reaction to
>>>> what I'm reading is that this family needs our prayers, and
>>>> compassion.
>>>> Any book that talks about miracles should be weighed against
>>>> scripture,
>>>> but it seems like what happened to this little one is meant to
>>>> encourage us.
>>>> I haven't walked on water, or raised the dead, but God has saved my
>>>> life more than once, and the testimonies from these events have lead
>>>> people to salvation, which is what really matters.
>>>> We'll know the book by it's fruit. Angel, I'm sorry you seem so
>>>> angry.
>>>> Blessings,
>>>> Donna
>>>> On 7/23/14, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> Then tell us everything that is theologically wrong with this
>>>>> miraculous
>>>>> experience. I get the feeling you don't want to read this little book
>>>>> and
>>>>> I'm wondering why. Why do you want to argue what you believe when you
>>>>> haven't read this book of a little boy's testimony confirmed by
>>>>> Scripture
>>>>> from beginning to end. Are you worried it might challenge some of
>>>>> your most
>>>>> closely held beliefs?
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil.
>>>>>
>>>
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