ceares,
It sounds as if the drive will not
spin-up, I was once successful in;
 Place the drive in a quality ziplock
bag
Carefully remove as much air as
possible
Place in freezer for several hours.
With any luck drive will run.
If drive starts, act fast as this is
only a temporary measure.
HTH,
Hal Seabolt 

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Behalf Of ceares
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:19 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] Hard drive
help-round 2

The fan was just replaced and the
thing is, it works perfectly fine
until I add the 2nd hard drive . When
that hard drive is removed/unhooked
from system, computer operates
perfectly. 

The hard drive was taken from another
computer that crashed-not sure why-and
I just need to get the data off of it.
I thought I could add it as a slave
drive and do it that way but the
minute it's hooked to the computer,
there is the shut off problem--it
never even gets to boot point, just
on-then bloop, off again. 

--- On Mon, 3/16/09, Thomas Mayer
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Thomas Mayer
<[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] Hard drive
help-round 2
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 10:20 PM

I think we may be hung up on the disk
drives being a problem. However, the
somewhat normal reason for a computer
shutting down unexpectedly is heat.
And in this case, with an early on
shutdown, the heat is most likely from
the CPU. If the CPU fan operates when
first turned on, I would investigate
the contact between the CPU, the heat
sink and the fan. I would also check
the fan operation on the video card if
so equipped.

Tom

ceares wrote:
> Sorry!  I feel like I'm spamming the
list but I'm desperate. I
tried using the cd hookup and same
thing. I even  disconnected the main
drive just in case computer can't run
with 2 harddrives. Same thing. Comes
on, then immediately cuts off.  
>
> Power supply is only 250 watts, but
that is the same as the power 
> supply
on the computer the drive originally
came from and there were two drives
attached to that computer.
>
> I can't afford a data  recovery
service from what I've heard and
I've seen a couple of posts online
about swapping out parts with another
hard drive of the same type.   Is this
something that might solve the
problem?  
>
> If  I try this, whats the best way
to protect my computer while I'm
checking it out? Do I need a harddrive
enclosure?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 3/15/09, Russ
Poffenberger
<[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> From: Russ Poffenberger
<[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] Hard drive
help-round 2
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 1:01
PM
>
> Hi,
>
> It sounds to me like perhaps the
hard drive has more serious problems.
> Perhaps it is drawing too much
current (power) causing the computer
to
trip
> off. It could simply be that the
power supply in the computer you are 
> putting it in is too small for an
extra hard driver.
>
> It is also possible that the IDE
port on the drive is bad and 
> scrambling
or
> pulling some of the lines either
high or low, making it so that the 
> main drive cannot be read properly.
>
> To avoid the whole master/slave and
shared cable issue, try seeing if 
> your computer has two IDE ports
(many newer computer with SATA ports 
> no longer have two IDE ports, but if
yours is more than a couple years 
> old, it should). Even if it is
currently used for a CDROM drive, 
> disconnect it and hook it to the
drive instead. It will not matter if 
> it is master or slave
as
> long as you aren't sharing the
cable.
>
> Also, make sure your power supply is
at least 350 to 400W to make sure 
> it has enough power to handle two
hard drives.
>
> Russ Poffenberger
> [log in to unmask]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Personal Computer Hardware
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of ceares
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:01
PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [PCBUILD] Hard drive
help-round 2
>
>
> I tried switching jumpers around to
make sure one drive was designated 
> master and the other slave and I got
the same result.
>
> As soon as I turn my computer on, it
pops off. I tried unhooking the
master
> hard drive, moved the jumper to
designate the new(old/slave) drive as 
> master, hooked the cables and power
to it only and tried to boot, 
> still
same
> thing, powers on, tried to boot,
powers off. 
>
> I switched the power connectors
around just in case it was the one
connected
> to the slave drive--same result.
>
> Is there anything else I can do to
recover the data from this harddrive ?
>
>
>        
>   

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