Do you really wish those of us whom you may see as apathetic the 
best, or is there a touch of cynicism and are you being sarcastic?

Regarding where to discuss these issues, you could discuss them with 
friends or neighbors, at church or a number of places, and there are, 
I am sure, several Christian political lists that one might join to 
discuss this very thing.  In fact, I believe Pat might know of 
one.  There are also many news outlets where one can get the news 
from a Christian prospective.  Therefore, I continue to maintain that 
politics has no place here if this is to be a list focused on Christ 
and to the edification of Christian believers.

Apathetic, never!!!  My husband believes as Bev does regarding the 
current administration; I do not!  However, I do believe in 
sensitivity to the discomfort of others as much as possible.

I personally think Bev is wrong, but I love her and would hate to see 
her leave the list simply because of a minority political view point.

Jackie

At 06:56 PM 2014-03-10, you wrote:
>Then I wish you all the best when you suffer as a result of what 
>this current administration is doing.  As for me, and for my house, 
>we will stand against those who are trying to take away our 
>religious freedom to worship, and to pay for what we choose.  I will 
>encourage you in your apathetic reaction to the threat Christians 
>face.  When home schools are prohibited, and when all reference to 
>our most holy faiths is removed from schools.  As it is being done, 
>and has been since prayer was removed from public schools. I dare 
>say children today don't even know the second verse of "my country 
>t'is of thee"  Because the first line says "Our father God to thee, 
>author of liberty."  I use to sing that song, both verses in public 
>school.  Would you believe?  If we don't discuss such things on a 
>list such as this, where on earth are we to discuss them?
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Shepherd" 
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>Subject: Re: I wish Christians could stay away from politics for once!
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>>I am reluctantly compelled to agree with Bev, not about the 
>>politics, but that it should not be a topic of discussion on the 
>>list.  It is my opinion that the list could be used for 
>>encouragement, prayer, topics of a scriptural nature, and Christ 
>>centered discussions and devotional material. Messages I've seen, 
>>some on the list, but most off, are nothing but hate filled 
>>government/President bashing tyrades; and I wonder how many people 
>>did their homework to see if these were true!  It certainly isn't a 
>>very good example of loving Christians; and I wonder how much it 
>>shows that we trust and leave all things to the Lord.  Romans 8:28 
>>says this much better than I ever could.
>>
>>Jackie
>>At 02:28 PM 2014-03-10, you wrote:
>>>Hi All!
>>>
>>>Well, I guess my subject line says what's on my mind.For several 
>>>years, now I've deliberately stayed away from most Christian 
>>>groups, due to the disappointment I always experience because I'm 
>>>so tired of politics always coming up as the topic. I so wish 
>>>Christians could get back to discussing scripture and talking 
>>>about the Lord and quit all the bashing, hatred, fear and 
>>>hostility for our president and our government. To be honest, even 
>>>though I am a professing Christian, this whole politic thing has 
>>>caused me to want to stay away from most Christian circles for the 
>>>past I don't know how many years, yet, I hate doing that as well, 
>>>because I miss sharing with other Christians about our Lord Jesus .
>>>
>>>Bev