my point abotu thembeing irrelevant is they ahve done away with the lectures and all yo can do is buy the gordon west and arrl stuff    wher are the audio lectures llike they used to have. those were  wonderful and how I learned to understand stuff like capacotr and lc circits and  the like and how I passed my extra. and that's my biggest problem with them. whyjoint hem if al they do is resell the same stuff i can get on amazon  that isn't even made for blind people. I have friends who want to get a license and can't even download study materials even after joinignhandihams  it made me look like a fool telling them all the great stuff handihams offered just to find out that they no longer do

On Dec 16, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Pat Byrne wrote:

> Howard,
> I have used Pat's expertise several times, enjoy his newsletters and 
> had the beam indicator device developed by Handihams.  Perhaps they 
> could do more; perhaps if all not for profits had more to spend they 
> could do more.  I currently work for a not for profit and it is an 
> awful time jost to hang on and do what you can.  Contributors are 
> stretched too thin.  I am a lifetime Handiham member and found a bit 
> extra to put toward their current fundraiser.
> The League isn't perfect but they represent our interests and are a 
> great resource.  Several years ago I became a lifetime League member 
> as well.  They make it quite affordable for those of us who can't 
> read QST.  And of course we can get it via other means so we really 
> get a bargain.
> Lets continue enjoying our hobby and this lest - life is too short to 
> spend it bitching about things, that at the end of the day aren't all 
> that important.
> Pat, K9JAUAt 04:47 PM 12/16/2011, you wrote:
>> Pat,
>> 
>> I couldn't have said it better myself
>> 
>> I am a life member of Handi-Hams and the Extra Study Lectures some 70 plus
>> done by Pat Tice were excellent and well done.  I used the question pool
>> study material and passed the test from their materials.
>> 
>> Have talked to Pat several times and he goes above and beyond with the
>> resources he has.
>> 
>> Let's lighten-up and be respectful of others the way all hams should conduct
>> themselves.
>> 
>> 73's
>> 
>> Howard #3
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pat Byrne" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 1:15 PM
>> Subject: How about a step back and a deep breath
>> 
>> 
>>> In the past twenty-four hours I've heard ARRL bashed, Handihams
>>> ripped and a couple of individuals defamed.  I checked just to be
>>> sure and it is no longer full moon.  All of us have things that get
>>> us PO.ed but lets consider the venue.  This is hardly a place for
>>> that kind of stuff.
>>> Were all adults, aren't we.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Pat Byrne, K9JAU