Yup, Icom and Kenwood work together. I guess it's not overly popular in the
us yet but is picking up steam pretty fast. One good thing about it in the
ham radio side of things is you can run mixed mode analog and idas. You can
select which mode you want to be in, and if, say we have our radios set by
default to call on analog and receive analog, if I get a call on idas, it
will switch automatically. It's developing pockets of popularity, how big it
will get I don't know but for now, it's something different for some to do,
and I followed along, until they lost interest and do something else.
----- Original Message -----
From: "colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: wauxum hand helds
> so IDAS and nexege are cross compatible?
> Seems both are big in europe for both commercial and Amateur use.
> I've heard very little about IDAS or nexege for commercial applications in
> Canada.
> They may well exist, just not around here yet.
> I'm sure I can read about both, but do they use the APCO25 type
> incription?
> if not, what do they use and are either IDAS or nexege able to be decoded
> by
> modern digital scanners?
>
> I guess part of the issue with IDAS or nexege is that only commercial
> radios
> are availible so far for either system, and unless you have an advanced
> class license in canada, your not supposed to use commercial gear on the
> ham
> bands. So, that pretty much eliminates probably 60 to 70 per cent of the
> licensed hams around here anyway.
> Not many clubs are going to put up the doe for a IDAS/nexege compatible
> repeater when 60 or more per cent of the user bass won't be able to access
> the digital system with their ham only rigs.
> There is a way around the license commercial problem in that a commercial
> radio can be programmed by an advanced user, and physically used to
> transmit
> and so on by a basic license holder, but there again, it's throwing
> another
> monkey wrench into the ease of use and accessibility of the digital
> system.
> At least with DStar, though expensive, any ham regardless of license class
> can obtain a DStar enabled ham rig and get on the system. But, you can't
> get a commercial radio with DStar in it, which means the cost of radios
> and
> DStar modules stays quite high.
> Does IDAS or Nexege also maintain analogue voice on the same repeater pair
> on top of the digital? I ask because it would be great to suggest trying
> one
> of these systems out on a local repeater as long as the regular analogue
> FM
> traffic can continue while those who can obtain the IDAS/Nexege rigs can
> also try that mode.
> DStar as you know, is digital voice/data only without any analogue FM
> aspect.
> For instance, can you use an IDAS or NEXEGE compatible repeater on regular
> analogue FM, and turn the digital aspect on at will?
> whereas with DStar you have to use digital only and the repeater system is
> not compatible with analogue FM usage.
> If the IDAS and Nexege repeaters are cross compatible with each other, and
> also allow for analogue use, then they are for sure a far more flexible
> and
> better alternative to the DStar stuff which is digital only.
> Last question, does either IDAS or NExege utilize the 1.2GHZ band, or are
> they confined to VHF/UHF bands only at this point?
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:54 PM
> Subject: Re: wauxum hand helds
>
>
>> IDAS is the commercial replacement and eventual complete replacement for
>> DStar compatible with Kenwood's nextege. They're already working their
>> way
>> in ham radio since it's pretty cheap compared to other digital modes and
>> icom reps are liking it going to the ham side of things.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 2:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: wauxum hand helds
>>
>>
>>> Sounds interesting. What is IDAS?
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Butch
>>> WA0VJR
>>> Node 3148
>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, John Miller wrote:
>>>
>>>> The IC-F3101 handheld and the IC-F5121 mobile, both VHF radios and
>>>> their
>>>> UHF
>>>> counterparts the IC-F4101 and IC-F6121. They are commercial radios, so
>>>> no
>>>> VFO, but they'll tell you what channel they're on in voice, do IDAS,
>>>> have
>>>> a
>>>> lot you can do with turning the power on while holding a button to
>>>> adjust
>>>> the squelch and other various settings, making it really one of the
>>>> best
>>>> commercial radios I've used for accessibility though I still prefer my
>>>> kenwoods. my fiance got me the IC-F3101 for my birthday since one of
>>>> the
>>>> local clubs I belong to and am VP of has a few IDAS repeaters up so now
>>>> I
>>>> can play there. The software took a little learning but now that I did
>>>> I
>>>> can
>>>> do anything with it.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "chad morrison" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:09 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: wauxum hand helds
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> what is the model?
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 11:15 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: wauxum hand helds
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a commercial Icom radio that can do that now, it will give
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> channels.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "chad morrison" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 12:12 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: wauxum hand helds
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> no, it will just read you the memory name.
>>>>>>> chad
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 8:44 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: wauxum hand helds
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone;
>>>>>>>> I think I got the answer once upon a time but I just have to ask
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> hope I misunderstood. Simply put what talks? Putting it another
>>>>>>>> way,
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> just put 20 channels in memory and I don't have my paper telling me
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> repeater is in what channel and I had a minor brain freeze. When I
>>>>>>>> bring up a memory channel will the radio speak both channel number
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> frequency? If it only speaks channel numbers it isn't on my want
>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>> Similarly if I am dialing through the band will the radio tell me
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> frequency I am currently on? To me those are the two most
>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>> features.
>>>>>>>> Given the drastically lower price how does this thing compare with
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> thf6a?
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> richard
>>>>
>>>>
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