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Thanks Pat.  Could use those lovings and squeezings as well.  (smiles)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Ferguson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Vicki's hand


> Dear Vicki,
>
> I'm praying for you and sending you bunches of lovings and squeezings.
>
> Thanks so much.
>
> Lovingly,
>
> Pat Ferguson
>
> At 10:19 PM 8/20/2013, you wrote:
>>If you think of it Friday, I have surgery on my left hand to correct the 
>>tendon issue.  Can't really correct it any other way.  I hope it does as 
>>they say it will.  So remember me in prayer please.  God is still my 
>>healer however he chooses to heal.
>>
>>
>>Vicki
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "john schwery" 
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 1:43 PM
>>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>
>>
>>>Vicki, ah, that can be hard on your hands.
>>>
>>>earlier, Vicki, wrote:
>>>>Customer  Service type stuff with phones and computer.
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "john schwery" 
>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 1:27 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Vicki, I have forgotten.  What do you do for work?
>>>>>
>>>>>earlier, Vicki, wrote:
>>>>>>We'll do.  Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Scovell" 
>>>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:31 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, be sure and let us know what you find out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicki" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 9:48 AM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Well, it's kind of weird. My left hand doesn't always want to close. 
>>>>>>>>It's painful to do so, most of the time. Opening it is a challenge 
>>>>>>>>as well. When I have to use my other hand to open my ring finger, 
>>>>>>>>for example,  it makes this pop noise and sneds a shock wave of pain 
>>>>>>>>to accompany it. My wrist seems to be somewhat unhappy as well. 
>>>>>>>>That's in short why the hand doc visit coming up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Vicki
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>Date: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:54 pm
>>>>>>>>Subject: Vicki's hand
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Vic,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so other's 
>>>>>>>>>can hear, too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>>>>>>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   ----- Original Message -----   From: Vicki
>>>>>>>>>   To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>>>>>>>>   Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Phil and everybody,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had 
>>>>>>>>> hoped it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know 
>>>>>>>>> what you know. I can't imagine having that much pain though and I 
>>>>>>>>> sure will be praying. I get some living with pain myself as I am 
>>>>>>>>> in therapy for a torn achiles Tendon.  The therapy has helped a 
>>>>>>>>> great deal and I have exercises to do at home which I am doing. 
>>>>>>>>> In addition, I'm headed to a hand surgeon on the 13th and praying 
>>>>>>>>> no surgery to be necessary, and everything to be returned to 
>>>>>>>>> manageable and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will be 
>>>>>>>>> praying that for you too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Vicki
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   .
>>>>>>>>>     ----- Original Message -----     From: Phil Scovell
>>>>>>>>>     To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>     Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>>>>>>>>     Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that 
>>>>>>>>> encouraging today.  Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus 
>>>>>>>>> the physical tests they did, revealed my lower back is 
>>>>>>>>> telescoping, that is, the vertebras are all pressing downward.  As 
>>>>>>>>> they  do, they are pressuring the disks which in turn are 
>>>>>>>>> spreading out, slipping to the sides, and coming in contact with 
>>>>>>>>> nerves which creates the pain in all the various locations. The 
>>>>>>>>> pain changes from the lower back, into my hips, back of my legs, 
>>>>>>>>> and all the way down to my ankles. Each back episode, creates pain 
>>>>>>>>> in multiple places but not the same places each and every time. 
>>>>>>>>> Also, the pain level my be from mild to severe.  They do not 
>>>>>>>>> recommend surgery because it would take a number of fusions of the 
>>>>>>>>> vertebras to repair the damage that is ongoing.  They are 
>>>>>>>>> recommending physical therapy in order to learn ways of exercising 
>>>>>>>>> to the point the vertebras pull back from each other further and 
>>>>>>>>> thus creating less pressure on the disks.  In short, learn to live 
>>>>>>>>> with it. I was hoping it would be a single set of vertebra that 
>>>>>>>>> could be fused but that isn't the case.  The pain episodes will 
>>>>>>>>> continue but hopefully, with the PT, not as often and the 
>>>>>>>>> exercises can be continued at home and should help keep things in 
>>>>>>>>> better shape; maybe. At some point, if the PT is helping, I can go 
>>>>>>>>> back and get shots in different places of my lower back to help 
>>>>>>>>> with pain management, if it gets unbearable, that is, but only 
>>>>>>>>> time will tell.  Learning to live with pain is going to be the 
>>>>>>>>> name of the game.  At least now I know. Certainly not as 
>>>>>>>>> encouraging as I would have hoped but knowing is better than not 
>>>>>>>>> knowing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Phil.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Satan Has A God Complex
>>>>>>>>>     www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Vic,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so other's 
>>>>>>>>>can hear, too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>>>>>>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: Vicki
>>>>>>>>>To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Phil and everybody,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had hoped 
>>>>>>>>>it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know what 
>>>>>>>>>you know. I can't imagine having that much pain though and I sure 
>>>>>>>>>will be praying. I get some living with pain myself as I am in 
>>>>>>>>>therapy for a torn achiles Tendon.  The therapy has helped a great 
>>>>>>>>>deal and I have exercises to do at home which I am doing.  In 
>>>>>>>>>addition, I'm headed to a hand surgeon on the 13th and praying no 
>>>>>>>>>surgery to be necessary, and everything to be returned to 
>>>>>>>>>manageable and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will be 
>>>>>>>>>praying that for you too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Vicki
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Scovell
>>>>>>>>>To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that encouraging 
>>>>>>>>>today. Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the physical 
>>>>>>>>>tests they did, revealed my lower back is telescoping, that is, the 
>>>>>>>>>vertebras are all pressing downward.  As they  do, they are 
>>>>>>>>>pressuring the disks which in turn are spreading out, slipping to 
>>>>>>>>>the sides, and coming in contact with nerves which creates the pain 
>>>>>>>>>in all the various locations.  The pain changes from the lower 
>>>>>>>>>back, into my hips, back of my legs, and all the way down to my 
>>>>>>>>>ankles. Each back episode, creates pain in multiple places but not 
>>>>>>>>>the same places each and every time. Also, the pain level my be 
>>>>>>>>>from mild to severe.  They do not recommend surgery because it 
>>>>>>>>>would take a number of fusions of the vertebras to repair the 
>>>>>>>>>damage that is ongoing. They are recommending physical therapy in 
>>>>>>>>>order to learn ways of exercising to the point the vertebras pull 
>>>>>>>>>back from each other further and thus creating less pressure on the 
>>>>>>>>>disks.  In short, learn to live with it.  I was hoping it would be 
>>>>>>>>>a single set of vertebra that could be fused but that isn't the 
>>>>>>>>>case. The pain episodes will continue but hopefully, with the PT, 
>>>>>>>>>not as often and the exercises can be continued at home and should 
>>>>>>>>>help keep things in better shape; maybe.  At some point, if the PT 
>>>>>>>>>is helping, I can go back and get shots in different places of my 
>>>>>>>>>lower back to help with pain management, if it gets unbearable, 
>>>>>>>>>that is, but only time will tell.  Learning to live with pain is 
>>>>>>>>>going to be the name of the game.  At least now I know. Certainly 
>>>>>>>>>not as encouraging as I would have hoped but knowing is better than 
>>>>>>>>>not knowing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Satan Has A God Complex
>>>>>>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>John
> 

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