Oh! Com-on Butch! You're just an old geezer! hahaha! Albert S, WA7FXB

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: back on the list again


>I agree it has its place, and I'll drop it here, but what annoys me is
> people who pretend it is radio.  It isn't any more radio than talking to
> a ham friend on the phone makes the phone ham radio.  I use irlp  to
> talk to friends, but at least there is a radio on each end on ham
> frequencies.  You can't use a computer to get into the system directly.
> There use to be a group of us who would meet on 40 each Saturday night
> and some times the band was good, some times not, but it was fun.  The
> last I knew, they or at least some of them, get on echo link and don't
> even try hf.  Anyhow, I'm done with this subject and will say no more.
> IfIf it is your thing go for it, personally I have no interest.
> 73
> Butch
> WA0VJR
> Node 3148
> Wallace, ks.
>
>
> On Wed, 3
> Aug 2011, Steve Dresser wrote:
>
>> When repeaters first came on the scene, I remember hearing that they 
>> weren't
>> really ham radio because the repeater did all the work, not the 
>> individual
>> station.
>>
>> Regarding Echolink, I have a weekly schedule that would not be possible
>> without it.  A group of us in the Boston area have a friend who moved to 
>> New
>> York City, and wouldn't be able to talk to the rest of us if he couldn't 
>> use
>> Echolink or IRLP, which he sometimes uses when he can't connect to the
>> repeater with Echolink.  I'm not sure why some people talk about using
>> Echolink as if it was an insult to their manhood.  I thought the goal of
>> amateur radio was communication, not "my radio is more real than your
>> radio."  I guess you could use a Bluetooth headset with your computer and
>> Echolink if you feel the need to have radio involved.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "KK4AHX Darren Duff" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:32
>> Subject: Re: back on the list again
>>
>>
>>> Indeed. I use it almost every day along with my Wouxun HT witch is my 
>>> only
>>> rig at this time... I do agree that skype and other VOIP clients have
>>> there
>>> place, But they can't connect you with repeaters miles and miles away. 
>>> In
>>> fact, due to the WSO's I have made with echo link, it's making me want 
>>> to
>>> upgrade to general.
>>> So it all depends on how you view it now doesn't it? Food for 
>>> thought....
>>>
>>>
>>> 73.
>>>
>>> Darren Duff.
>>>
>>> amateur radio station KK4AHX.
>>>
>>> Cherokee Amateur Radio Society.
>>>
>>> http://www.cherokeehams.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: For blind ham radio operators 
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of Anthony Vece
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:46 AM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: back on the list again
>>>
>>> John, some day you may be in a position that will only allow you to use
>>> Echo= Link.
>>>
>>> Life takes strange twists and turns.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2011, at 9:39 AM, John Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Intolerant of those who sit there claiming they're working the world
>>>> on ha=
>>> m=20
>>>> radio when it's actually on the computer with no work at all
>>>> involved,and=20=
>>>
>>>> will never upgrade or never have to worry about band conditions, which
>>>> is=20=
>>>
>>>> part of ham radio, yes, we should be intolerant of laziness and
>>>> ignorance.=
>>> I=20
>>>> wouldn't have quite as big a problem if they were like irlp and you
>>>> had to=
>>> =20
>>>> use a radio of some sort to get in the system. I'd still not like it
>>>> but=20=
>>>
>>>> wouldn't be as against it. a little security wouldn't hurt either,
>>>> it's so=
>>> =20
>>>> easy to get in now it's not even funny if someone wants to try it.  If
>>>> you=
>>> =20
>>>> want to talk all over the world on the computer, get on skype or any
>>>> of th=
>>> e=20
>>>> numerous online license free chat programs and don't call yourself a
>>>> ham.=20=
>>>
>>>> I'm sick and tired of the people who say they'll never upgrade or put
>>>> up a=
>>> =20
>>>> station because of lowlifelink, that's why I woke up, saw how bad a
>>>> thing i=
>>> t=20
>>>> really is, pulled all my system down for that, uninstalled it and told
>>>> the=
>>> m=20
>>>> to take my call sign out of the system permanently and ban it so no
>>>> one ca=
>>> n=20
>>>> try to register as me which is very easy to do.  and also I've been
>>>> fighti=
>>> ng=20
>>>> to have it discounted as a supposed ham radio mode ever since. I
>>>> should tr=
>>> y=20
>>>> the new ham radio enforcement at the fcc, the last one was all for it
>>>> but=20=
>>>
>>>> afraid they'd lose people, of course that's the kind we want to lose
>>>> I=20 pointed out but he announced his retirement a couple days later
>>>> and never=20=
>>>
>>>> did anything about it.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>> From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:23 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: back on the list again
>>>> =20
>>>> =20
>>>>> Hi bill, this is Howard.  nice to hear you again.
>>>>> Their are some intolerant people here who don't respect other
>>>>> people's choice of using echolink.
>>>>> Ignore bigots of thought where ever you find them.
>>>>> Echo link works fine.  for communication with radio amateurs.
>>>>> It's available from
>>>>> http://www.echolink.org
>>>>> When you set it up, you have to set all of the station views to
>>>>> explorer view.
>>>>> This is done by unchecking index view for everything under tools
>>>>> preferences.
>>>>> The audio doesn't compare with skype.  Their used to be and maybe
>>>>> still i=
>>> s=20
>>>>> a
>>>>> noon handyhams net that meets on one of the repeaters from
>>>>> Minneapolis, a=
>>> s
>>>>> well as on echolink.
>>>>> It's kind of cool to talk to mobiles driving around Jerusalem.  Now
>>>>> try=20=
>>>
>>>>> that
>>>>> on HF!
>>>>> Have fun and a number of people on here have echolink nodes.=20
>>>
>>>
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