If that was my only choice I'll go do something else. I didn't get my ham 
*radio* license to talk on the computer. I suppose that 2 months I lived 
with my fiance's family over a year ago proves that since I had 20 to 60 
over noise on all bands 160 through 440 and no outside antenna, so I got on 
gmrs which for some reason wasn't effected and that was all I did unless 
mobile.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anthony Vece" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: back on the list again


> John, some day you may be in a position that will only allow you to use 
> Echo=
> Link.
>
> Life takes strange twists and turns.
>
>
> Anthony
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone
>
> On Aug 3, 2011, at 9:39 AM, John Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Intolerant of those who sit there claiming they're working the world on 
>> ha=
> m=20
>> radio when it's actually on the computer with no work at all 
>> involved,and=20=
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>> will never upgrade or never have to worry about band conditions, which 
>> is=20=
>
>> part of ham radio, yes, we should be intolerant of laziness and 
>> ignorance.=
> I=20
>> wouldn't have quite as big a problem if they were like irlp and you had 
>> to=
> =20
>> use a radio of some sort to get in the system. I'd still not like it 
>> but=20=
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>> wouldn't be as against it. a little security wouldn't hurt either, it's 
>> so=
> =20
>> easy to get in now it's not even funny if someone wants to try it.  If 
>> you=
> =20
>> want to talk all over the world on the computer, get on skype or any of 
>> th=
> e=20
>> numerous online license free chat programs and don't call yourself a 
>> ham.=20=
>
>> I'm sick and tired of the people who say they'll never upgrade or put up 
>> a=
> =20
>> station because of lowlifelink, that's why I woke up, saw how bad a thing 
>> i=
> t=20
>> really is, pulled all my system down for that, uninstalled it and told 
>> the=
> m=20
>> to take my call sign out of the system permanently and ban it so no one 
>> ca=
> n=20
>> try to register as me which is very easy to do.  and also I've been 
>> fighti=
> ng=20
>> to have it discounted as a supposed ham radio mode ever since. I should 
>> tr=
> y=20
>> the new ham radio enforcement at the fcc, the last one was all for it 
>> but=20=
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>> afraid they'd lose people, of course that's the kind we want to lose I=20
>> pointed out but he announced his retirement a couple days later and 
>> never=20=
>
>> did anything about it.
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: back on the list again
>>=20
>>=20
>>> Hi bill, this is Howard.  nice to hear you again.
>>> Their are some intolerant people here who don't respect other people's
>>> choice of using echolink.
>>> Ignore bigots of thought where ever you find them.
>>> Echo link works fine.  for communication with radio amateurs.
>>> It's available from
>>> http://www.echolink.org
>>> When you set it up, you have to set all of the station views to explorer
>>> view.
>>> This is done by unchecking index view for everything under tools
>>> preferences.
>>> The audio doesn't compare with skype.  Their used to be and maybe still 
>>> i=
> s=20
>>> a
>>> noon handyhams net that meets on one of the repeaters from Minneapolis, 
>>> a=
> s
>>> well as on echolink.
>>> It's kind of cool to talk to mobiles driving around Jerusalem.  Now 
>>> try=20=
>
>>> that
>>> on HF!
>>> Have fun and a number of people on here have echolink nodes.=20