Hi,
I LOVE ARES.
That is the only reason I am using my Amateur Radio License.
I am pleased to be a Net Manager for a Traffic Nes, be active in NTS, Skywarn and MARS.
To me, ARES serves a desinite puprose and if we don't practice we will not be prepared for an Emergency.
The other parts of the Hobby are fine for those who are interested.
I think our primary purpose is Service.
I expect that many people do not agree with my view.
Colleen Roth, N8TNV;
----- Original Message -----
From: colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Friday, Jul 8, 2011 15:04:57
Subject: Re: packet radio
>
>
> so again, ARES, the Asshole radio executive society rears it's ugly head hi
> hi.
> Sorry, that was my bitter scinisism coming out.
> As I've said before, the ares group around here thinks they are god's gift
> to communications and they are trying to take all the fun, and amateur out
> of our hobby and promote it exclusively as a volunteer emergency service.
> They, the ARES membership, seem to think that we are emergency responders
> first, professional radio operators second, and just happen to have a ham
> license to make it all possible as third.
> I'm particularly annoyed lately because a local ham was given a UHF repeater
> pair by the district frequency coordinator, and had his cans and boxes set
> up for that frequency, and then an ARES guy came along and started
> buegelling that the frequency was a national ARES repeater pair and had been
> set aside for ARES use only etc.
> There was some contraversy around this, and I'm happy to say, that ARES
> didn't win the arguement at the end of the day.
> I know ARES and similar amateur radio bassed organizations in other places
> are probably great and wonderful, but the local one is plum full of wanna be
> cops, and real big ego's and arrogant attitudes towards other hams.
> They barely talk to anyone who isn't an ARES member or who hasn't taken all
> the appropriate "training" to be an ARES member.
>
> I just find it vastly irritating that so much of the hobby is now being
> overwhelmed by this kind of thing. Yes, we should be availible in the event
> of a real emergency, and hams can offer some excellent resources when
> needed. But that is only one small aspect of the hobby/service, it is not
> the be all and end all of being an amateur in my mind.
> We're there to be a service when needed, but the rest of the time, it's a
> hobby.
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:23 AM
> Subject: Re: packet radio
>
>
> > The NTS keeps packet active. It's good in an emergency for passing info
> > you
> > really don't want passed over voice. Win link falls in that same category
> > so
> > there is still a use for it and I'm noticing a growing popularity over the
> > last 6 months or so again of people using it back like they used to when I
> > got started in ham radio, it appears to be making a come back. There was a
> > time when I'd see maybe 5 people and 4 BBS's in my area and while the
> > BBS's
> > haven't changed, I'd say the number of users is at least 10 times that,
> > just
> > that I can see from where I am on the frequency I'm on.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: packet radio
> >
> >
> >arI didn't read the first couple posts on this sorry.
> >ar what precisely is packet used for these days? bulletins? messages? how
> >ar does
> >ar it compare to other faster and more reliable methods of text
> >ar handling...l
> >ar the internet or cell phones?
> >ar Seems a redundant mode now...ddunlike voice or digital vice radio which
> >ar still
> >ar stands on it's own marrits.
> >ar 73
> >ar Colin, V A6BS
> >ar ----- Original Message -----
> >ar From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> >ar To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >ar Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:41 PM
> >ar Subject: Re: packet radio
> >ar
> >ar
> >>> outpost is totally accessible, I use it daily, winpack is as well, I
> >>> used
> >>> to
> >>> use that b since moving to windows vista and now windows 7, no I don't
> >>> consider either an upgrade, just the opposite, but anyway, outpost is
> >>> the
> >>> best bet with those OS's. You can find Cam's, KPC-3"NESS, various other
> >>> TNC's
> >>> for good prices on the used market, I got my KPC-3 I use on a 24/7
> >>> packet
> >>> station for about $75, and no one had even opened the box until I got
> >>> it,
> >>> the person I got it from bought it and it sat on a shelf for a couple
> >>> years.
> >>> Now I've had it up, other than a month it was down while I moved, but
> >>> other
> >>> than that, it's been running 6 years now and still going. If the TM-V7A
> >>> ahs
> >>> the 6 pin mini din connector for packet, there is a setting in the tnc
> >>> you'd
> >>> have to change to use it with that, no big deal but if you go ahead with
> >>> it,
> >>> let me know and I can talk you through changing it, it's not a big deal
> >>> I'm
> >>> just too worn out to think about it now. I was helping my uncle with his
> >>> racecar all day and it was a long hot day and the heat and other things
> >>> worked against us all the way. I'm checking email quick and going to
> >>> bed.
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "tom behler" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:06 PM
> >>> Subject: packet radio
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi, all.
> >>>>
> >>>> I recently have been re-appointed as Emergency Co-ordinator and RACES
> >>>> Officer for my county in Michigan.
> >>>>
> >>>> One of the things our section leadership would like us to work on is
> >>>> improving our capabilities in the packet radio area.
> >>>>
> >>>> Apparently, our section leadership likes the idea of getting certain
> >>>> printed
> >>>> material in times of emergency, and they also like the idea that packet
> >>>> can
> >>>> work when all other communications systems are down.
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to pursue the possibility of getting a packet system up
> >>>> and
> >>>> running here at the home QTH, but don't want to spend money
> >>>> unnecessarily,
> >>>> especially if the resulting system will not be blind friendly.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's what I have so far:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. I have an old TMV7A that I can dedicate to packet if needed;
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. I have an outdoor antenna for 2 meters that is ready to go; and
> >>>>
> >>>> 3. I have a computer that I can load any needed packet software onto.
> >>>>
> >>>> My questions are these:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. What kind of packet softwre works best with Jaws? Outpost, Windows
> >>>> Hyperterm, or something else?
> >>>> 2. What kind of TNC would be relatively inexpensive to acquire, and
> >>>> would
> >>>> be blind friendly?
> >>>>
> >>>> Any help with these questions would be appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll collect all responses, and put them into a folder for future
> >>>> reference.
> >>>>
> >>>> 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
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