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Steve Dresser <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:33:23 -0500
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Michael,

The ID is transmitted on the control frequency.  Unfortunately, the radio 
doesn't know whether anyone else is transmitting, so the ID can step on 
someone.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Thurman" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 14:21
Subject: Re: Some questions on Crossbanding with the TMV71A


> oh wow  that makes me want oe even more i didn't realie the 71a had an =
> ider built in   how does it decide which band to transmit the id on, I =
> assume  it transmits the id on whichever band the control band is  =
> usually uhf since your own voice identifies the hf transmission if you =
> go into it on uhf and come out on vhf to work a local repeater. that =
> relaly excites me and makes me want one for the car even more. I am at =
> adoption events and inside stores where just an ht doesn't get out of =
> the building and I've been wanting to be able to crossband that way like =
> I do at home witht he tx2000 sounds like an awesome radio :)
>
> On Feb 20, 2011, at 11:46 PM, colin McDonald wrote:
>
>> well it does, but only in cross band mode.
>> so if you had two TM V71's, you could have full duplex.
>> but you'd have to have everyone using them have dual band radios as =
> well=20
>> that could receive on one band while transmitting on the other...most =
> HT's=20
>> can't do this, even the dual band HT's.
>> We run full duplex on one of our local repeaters sometimes between VHF =
> and=20
>> UHF...but all operators have to have a radio that can receive on one =
> band=20
>> while transmitting on the other, and we all have to know which band =
> the=20
>> person talking is transmitting on so we can key up on the other band =
> so he=20
>> can hear what we say while he's listening and talking...of course, you =
> have=20
>> to deal with the cross band echo as well between the repeaters and so =
> on,=20
>> but it's very neat.
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Gary Tillinghast" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 9:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Some questions on Crossbanding with the TMV71A
>>=20
>>=20
>>> Hi Guys,
>>> Too bad the radio doesn't due full duplex.  Gary KB2YAA
>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 9:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Some questions on Crossbanding with the TMV71A
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Tom,
>>>=20
>>> I'm not sure there's any legal requirement for you to have the radio =
> ID
>>> every ten minutes unless you want to leave it in crossband mode=20
>>> unattended.
>>> The reason I use it here is so that I can use my HT and not have to =
> be
>>> confined to the shack.  I can't hit the repeater I want to use with =
> my HT,
>>> so I just run the HT at extremely low power and let the big radio do =
> the
>>> heavy lifting.
>>>=20
>>> Steve
>>>=20
>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>> From: "tom behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 20:34
>>> Subject: Re: Some questions on Crossbanding with the TMV71A
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>>   Oh really, Steve!!!  Well, that's good to know!
>>>>=20
>>>> May not be worth all of the trouble then.
>>>> It sounded cool when I heard about it, but if the ID potentially can
>>>> transmit over someone else who might be talking at the time, that =
> could=20
>>>> be
>>>> a
>>>> real drawback.
>>>>=20
>>>> Thanks for this info!
>>>>=20
>>>> If I do decide to give it a try, at least I know I'll have to do the =
> ID
>>>> programming via the software.
>>>>=20
>>>> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>>=20
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 8:29 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Some questions on Crossbanding with the TMV71A
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Tom,
>>>>=20
>>>> You'll have to enter your call via the software, but I think you'll =
> find
>>>> that this function is a disappointment even though it sounds pretty =
> cool.
>>>> The problem is that the ID is broadcast regardless of what else is
>>>> happening, which means that if someone else is transmitting, your =
> radio
>>>> will
>>>> key up and transmit over them.  I tried this feature for a while, =
> but
>>>> eventually disabled it because of the way it worked.
>>>>=20
>>>> Steve
>>>>=20
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>> From: "tom behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 12:54
>>>> Subject: Some questions on Crossbanding with the TMV71A
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>>   Hi all.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On the TMV71A mailing list a little while ago, it was said that =
> when
>>>>> cross-banding, The TM-V71A can be
>>>>> set up so you can have it ID every 10 minutes (on both
>>>>> frequencies) to keep things legal.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Someone kindly posted the following instructions as to how to do =
> this:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> "Enter the Menu and go to RPT.ID Menu number 405 and enter your =
> callsign
>>>>> then
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Enter Menu Mode again and go to Menu number 406 which says ID.TX
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The selections for ID Transmit are Off, Morse, and Voice. Select =
> Morse.
>>>>> Now
>>>>> your all setup. It transmits at twenty words per minute."
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I have tried to follow these instructions, but when I get into  =
> menu 405
>>>>> to
>>>>> enter my call sign as my
>>>>> id, the VGS1 voice chip doesn't give me any prompts.  Can I enter =
> my=20
>>>>> call
>>>>> sign via the radio using the mic key pad, or is this something 
>>>>> that=20=
>
>>>>> needs
>>>>> to
>>>>> be done in the programming software?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Also, do I need to put a special designator after my call =
> indicating=20
>>>>> that
>>>>> I
>>>>> am cross-banding?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I have asked these questions on the TMV71A list, but thought =
> someone=20
>>>>> here
>>>>> might have tried this and been successful.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Any help would be appreciated, since this seems to be a really cool
>>>>> function
>>>>> worth trying when crossbanding.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thanks, and 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
> 

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