Which faith would that be; yours or mine?
Phil.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: Just read the book
>I am not free to interpret scripture. My Faith forbids private
>interpretation of scripture. I never said you are a liar. I am not free
>to judge that either. As our Lord forbids such judgments. I am free,
>however, not to believe what you believe, and you are free to do the same
>regarding me and my beliefs. If we each believed the same things we would
>be of the same Faith.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Just read the book
>
>
>> Angel,
>>
>> So, since we don't agree on doctrinal positions and interpretation of
>> some Scriptures, am I a liar because it doesn't follow the interpretation
>> of the Catholic church or you?
>>
>> Phil.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: Just read the book
>>
>>
>>>I will not read the book. For the reasons I previously stated. Many in
>>>this world have different beliefs than do I about all sorts of things
>>>from . John Calvin, to Charles Taze Russell, to Joseph Smith. All
>>>claiming to base their beliefs on scriptural accuracy. Each of whom have
>>>flawed reasoning, in my opinion. Of course you are free, as you have
>>>done, to disagree with me on everything. That is your right. About
>>>which I wouldn't gainsay you. I dare say, I need not have to know about
>>>the experiences of others regarding either heaven or hell. I
>>> Shall be having my own experiences in good time. So why should I care
>>> to read about those of others? When such are so personal, and can be so
>>> easily contrived by others to make a dollar or million. -----
>>> Original Message -----
>>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:10 PM
>>> Subject: Just read the book
>>>
>>>
>>>> Angel,
>>>>
>>>> After you've read the book, and all the confirming Scriptures used in
>>>> the book to verify the miracle, then tell us how your beliefs are
>>>> superior to everyone else's believing in Bible doctrine and theology.
>>>> But you aren't going to do that, are you? You are going to keep
>>>> running down everyone else who has read it as being gullible, easily
>>>> fooled and misguided, so called Bible believers. I still say you are
>>>> just simply afraid to read it because you would rather believe in a
>>>> belief system than in Scripture itself even when Scripture is clearly
>>>> experienced by a Bible believer.
>>>>
>>>> Phil.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:51 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little
>>>> boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I am not angry,, I apologize if it seems that I am,. I just can't
>>>>>understand for the life of me why protestants find it so hard to
>>>>>believe in some Catholic teachings, such as those claiming the Saints
>>>>>are interceding for us constantly in heaven, and that they constantly
>>>>>are with us on earth watching over us with our personal angels. They
>>>>>being the cloud of witnesses of which Saint Paul spoke, and they so
>>>>>easily accept something they read from a book shelf. Almost as if it
>>>>>were gospel itself? It seems to me, protestants will bee almost
>>>>>willing to believe anything from almost anyone who claims it to be
>>>>>true. Some are almost as bad as those who believe the shroud of Turin
>>>>>is real. When Saint Paul didn't even recount what he saw in heaven,
>>>>>and don't you think he would have at least raved about how he saw Saint
>>>>>Steven there. If he saw him. Because, we know he suffered from the
>>>>>guilt over the part he played in his martyrdom, if he saw him in
>>>>>heaven. Why should I believe any modern recounts of heavenly
>>>>>experiences. When, in order for A Saint to be canonized, two miracles
>>>>>must be verified as having been done by that Saint. It is those
>>>>>recounting from such Saints as Paul and John in whom I put my trust
>>>>>concerning heavenly accounts. I ask, what is the litmus test to which
>>>>>you all have put this recounting from this young man whom no one on the
>>>>>list knows personally? Now I am not saying the experiences themselves
>>>>>aren't real experiences. I am just saying why I don't believe they
>>>>>should be taken at face value. Only God knows whether those experiences
>>>>>weren't hallucinations. My late husband suffered from a load of those.
>>>>>Each of which seemed perfectly real to him. I know what they were too,
>>>>>because he spoke each he saw.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Donna Bell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:56 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little
>>>>> boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>> I haven't read the book yet, but I intend too. My first reaction to
>>>>>> what I'm reading is that this family needs our prayers, and
>>>>>> compassion.
>>>>>> Any book that talks about miracles should be weighed against
>>>>>> scripture,
>>>>>> but it seems like what happened to this little one is meant to
>>>>>> encourage us.
>>>>>> I haven't walked on water, or raised the dead, but God has saved my
>>>>>> life more than once, and the testimonies from these events have lead
>>>>>> people to salvation, which is what really matters.
>>>>>> We'll know the book by it's fruit. Angel, I'm sorry you seem so
>>>>>> angry.
>>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On 7/23/14, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Then tell us everything that is theologically wrong with this
>>>>>>> miraculous
>>>>>>> experience. I get the feeling you don't want to read this little
>>>>>>> book and
>>>>>>> I'm wondering why. Why do you want to argue what you believe when
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> haven't read this book of a little boy's testimony confirmed by
>>>>>>> Scripture
>>>>>>> from beginning to end. Are you worried it might challenge some of
>>>>>>> your most
>>>>>>> closely held beliefs?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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