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Phil, that is why it says, later in the passage, and having done all, to stand.

earlier, Phil Scovell, wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Pat Ferguson
>
>
> > Phil,
> > Can you explain this to me, please? <smile>
>
>
>Pat,
>
>It is sort of one of those things that cannot be explained but it basically
>means, what we believe is what is true in our minds.  I know that sounds new
>age and not Biblical but awhile back, the Lord told me about what believing,
>or belief, is.  For years, I have been confused about how to believe God.
>It seemed it was all my responsibility and I had to do all the heavy lifting
>before anything I asked God for would come to pass.  I knew that couldn't be
>right because He has already done all the heavy lifting on the cross and
>especially as a result of His bodily resurrection.  So how do we believe?
>Where we stand is what we believe.  I get this idea from the Ephesians
>chapter 6 passage about putting on the whole armor of God.  The shield of
>faith is not an offensive weapon but a defensive weapon.  You don't throw a
>shield at the Enemy.  In this case, you stand fixed in place, not attacking,
>but standing your ground and when the fiery darts come, your shield of faith
>alone quenches them; kills them dead in their tracks.  So in my opinion, and
>I ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer, believing God is where we stand,
>that is, what we believe.  If we believe we are cursed, ok, that's fine.
>You prayed about it and sent them packing.  Good for you because that's the
>right thing to do.  Then, however, we stand fixed and hold our ground.  We
>don't need to fight, Ephesians 6 is a metaphor, and therefore not real in
>the since of literally fighting.  Besides, the Enemy was clearly defeated
>and exposed openly to the world by the Lord at the resurrection.  Therefore,
>we embrace the complete meaning of the cross but live in the Lord's bodily
>resurrection.  That's where we stand.  So the saying, "The curse that works
>is the one we believe," to me means the truth is God aware and the Enemy is
>a lie.  So the question becomes where are we standing?  On God's Word or the
>lie of the Enemy.  I hear faith in your voice even as you write to us about
>what is going on.  That's where you keep standing and don't throw your
>shield; just hold it up to deflect the lies thrown by the Enemy.  The fiery
>darts, if you study it from the Greek, carries the meaning of emotions and
>feeling.  They aren't literally fiery darts, of course, but the Greek
>meaning of the words implies lies thrown at what we think because what we
>think is where we are defeated or victorious.  Before my spinal surgery, I
>kept feeling, thinking in my mind, but feeling it emotionally as well, that
>I was disappointing my family.  My physical pain and circumstances were so
>loud, I couldn't hear the Lord about why I felt this way.  One night, I
>heard Him say, "It is a lie."  I was being demonically attacked, in a manner
>of speaking, and the fiery dart was a lie that said, "If you die, you will
>be disappointing your family," that is, I would be making them suffer over
>my death and thus failing my family.  I know it sounds stupid now but when
>you are in the thick of things and the Enemy is throwing fiery darts into
>your mind and thoughts and the circumstances are off the scale, standing
>firm is all that is required.  Ask others to agree in prayer, which you have
>done, pray against the attack, which you have done.  Now stand.  No working,
>no charging into battle trying to defeat the Enemy, who is already defeated,
>but hold and stand your ground.  Be God's Word on earth in your present
>circumstances.  The Enemy cannot defeat you if you just stand and let what
>you know represent who you are in Christ.  Sorry.  I got to preaching there.
>The curse is broken so stand in what you know as one of His children.
>
>Phil.
>
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John

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