Maybe you both should move to germany. *g*

More seriously, if the Carol you are mentioning is Carol Pearson, she 
would be perfectly eligible to come to germany and get cared for 
under our medical system as she is an e.c. citizen. I will copy her 
on this. please check if the email I have for her is the most current one.

Hugs,

Doris

At 06:09 PM 2014/03/03 -0700, you wrote:
>Doris,
>
>According to a majority of various poles taken, more than 50 percent 
>of voting Americans don't want national health care because we 
>already have it for those who are disabled or there is Medicare for 
>those 65 years and older which is national.  Plus, we have the VA, 
>or Veterans administration, and that covers our entire military 
>personnel but it, too, is limited and poorly managed and poorly 
>maintained as far as health is concerned.  Obama care hasn't even 
>gotten off the ground and it's already so far behind, people who 
>once were covered with their own insurance companies are going to be 
>dying because they can't even get health through the government that 
>will supply their needs.  and it never will completely do to the 
>charges.  It isn't free, as most believe, because you literally pay 
>for it yourself and if you cannot pay the whole thing, money is 
>taken from others to fulfill the obligation.  Anyone in the United 
>States, including illegal aliens, often politically called 
>undocumented immigrants, can walk into any hospital emergency room 
>any time of the day or night and will be cared for even if they have 
>no insurance of any kind and regardless of what is wrong with 
>them.  Of course, nothing is free and somebody has to pay for 
>it.  Sandy and I, for example, paid taxes and for Medicare we now 
>will be on as retired senior citizens, plus disability insurance, me 
>for 35 years, and Sandy for over 40 years, so that's a lot of taxes 
>to have paid for health coverage in our later years we are in right 
>now.  I'm more concerned about our president not keeping his big 
>mouth shut concerning the Russians at the moment.  He is going to 
>paint our country right into a corner we won't be able to get out of 
>and with our reduction of our military services to below pre world 
>war 2, the U S is going to have a big problem defending itself.  At 
>least Germany has excellent doctors, well trained, and our military 
>overseas still uses Germany, as you probably already know, to fly 
>soldiers who have been badly wounded to for the best care available 
>before they can be sent back to the states for recovery.  but the 
>UK, and many other nationalist health systems are not as 
>fortunate.  I am, for example, quite concerned about Carol who used 
>to be on here because she isn't getting the medical care she could 
>get here or in Germany, for example.  British employed citizens 
>currently pay at least 60 percent of all their income for 
>nationalist services which is mostly health care.  The figures for 
>the upper income Americans pay about that now, too.  70 percent of 
>all our taxes are paid by people considered to me upper middle class 
>and upper class starts at 250,000 dollars a year. Sandy and I paid 
>about 25 percent of our income for taxes but it has changed so much 
>over the years due to inflation, that is, living expenses, that we 
>will barely make ends meet living on our social security we paid 
>into, as I said, for the last 35 and 40 years so that's a total of 
>75 years of taxes we paid together.  If we could have invested even 
>half of that, we'd be considered well to do, or upper middle class, 
>during these later years of life.  What we will be living on now 
>will be considered in the upper poor category of income levels.  In 
>short, we will have lost two thirds of our income we made working a 
>job.  We can still work but your income is limited but physically, 
>of course, you have to be able to work and I don't fall into that 
>category.  That's why Sandy wants to find a home employment job when 
>she is fully recovered from this most recent of surgeries on her hip.
>
>Phil.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris and Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:19 PM
>Subject: Re: Obama Care and Planned Parenthood
>
>
>>Sheesh. we in general think that obama is doing a good think by 
>>introducing much needed social health care in the US but this is 
>>terrible. Mind you, from our view, an abortion would be justified 
>>if the mothers life was immediately in danger but not for social indication.
>>
>>it is society and not peoples lives that need change for that to happen.
>>
>>Doris and Chris in Germany
>>
>>At 04:54 AM 2014/03/03 -0500, you wrote:
>>>I take personal offence with the planned parenthood  organization.
>>>Because of its stand regarding contraception and abortion.  Which, 
>>>in my opinion is nothing more than infanticide.  Is it any wonder 
>>>why those clinics are in the poorest parts of all towns, and that 
>>>the neighborhoods in which they are located are black 
>>>neighborhoods?  Just the other week I heard a study was done, and 
>>>that more dear black children were murdered through abortions than 
>>>were born?  We  must pray for the souls of all these poor 
>>>children, and for the enlightenment of their poor benighted 
>>>mothers.  That they might see, before it is too late, the harm 
>>>they are doing to their own immortal souls by having this done to 
>>>them, and allowing this horror to exist.  Without doing anything 
>>>to stop it at all.
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>Phil Scovell
>>>To: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]
>>>Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 7:03 PM
>>>Subject: Obama Care and Planned Parenthood
>>>
>>>This week, someone knocked on our front door.  Nobody hardly ever 
>>>does that except for UPS and the mail man and even then, the knock 
>>>is only to let us know they are leaving a box on our front porch 
>>>steps.  Otherwise, everybody comes to what we call our side door 
>>>which is the front of my office on the side of the house.  This 
>>>time it was someone from Planned Parenthood and when asked what 
>>>they wanted, they said they were just checking to see if we, 
>>>everyone living in this house in other words, were signed up with 
>>>Obama Care.  They said they were just going house to house 
>>>checking to see if people were signed up.  Your tax dollars at 
>>>work for the biggest abortion mill in North America.  55 million 
>>>abortions and counting.
>>>
>>>Phil.
>>>Living His Name
>>><http://www.SafePlaceFellowship.COM>WWW.SafePlaceFellowship.COM