Correct!
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On Sep 12, 2010, at 7:48 PM, Ed Malmgren <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Right on Anthony, There is a difference between talk and action. Some of
> them come and even get ham tickets. 73
> Ed K7UC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Vece" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 5:14 PM
> Subject: Re: This has nothing to do with ham radio
>
>
>> You tell them Ed.
>> This world would be lost without us and our Yankee know how.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 12, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Ed Malmgren <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Sure is funny why so many people come to the U S A from Canada for health
>>> care then. Go figure.
>>> Ed K7UC
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: This has nothing to do with ham radio
>>>
>>>
>>>> absolutely.
>>>> Cuba has one of the best health care systems on earth for their general
>>>> population.
>>>> there might be allot of other things wrong with cuba, but their health
>>>> care
>>>> is second to none.
>>>> I would venture to guess that the US is the only industrialized, first
>>>> world
>>>> country that doesn't have a national health care system by which all
>>>> residents are treated to adequit and timely medical care without having
>>>> to
>>>> pay for it directly.
>>>> Obviously taxes support a national health care system, but at least in
>>>> other
>>>> countries, you don't have to pay your taxes, and pay for medical care on
>>>> top
>>>> of that.
>>>> The american way seems to be pay, pay, and pay some more, and still not
>>>> receive adequit service or care.
>>>> I would say that a country more interested in trillion dollar wars may
>>>> not
>>>> see a good healthcare system for their population as a priority.
>>>> Canada didn't always have a healthcare system either, but the one we
>>>> have
>>>> now, though always problematic as any large national organization is, is
>>>> adequit and timely as far as care goes on the front line.
>>>> No one must pay out of pocket, or go into debt to stay healthy or to
>>>> receive
>>>> care for an illness. Or, stay sick because they can't pay.
>>>> We pay our federal and provincial taxes, and that is enough to provide
>>>> basic
>>>> human needs for us.
>>>> what is the point in having a government, if that government won't even
>>>> assist the general population with basic human needs? sooers, running
>>>> and
>>>> clean water, land, safety and security, healthcare, education and
>>>> employment.
>>>> those are absolute basics, and implementation of programs to meet those
>>>> needs doesn't fall under the definition of socialism.
>>>> Any government who is put in charge of a society or population can be
>>>> said
>>>> to be socialist to one extent or another.
>>>> Socialism seems to be a catch all phrase for anything americans don't
>>>> like
>>>> about federal programs. Throw up that red flag named socialism and
>>>> everyone
>>>> starts thinking about the soviet union, cuba, china, and the eastern
>>>> block.
>>>> social programs does not equal communism, two totally separate things.
>>>> Capitalism and the "american way" can thrive and still do very well
>>>> under
>>>> a
>>>> higher level of "socialist" style programs and services.
>>>> You pay less as a citizen, and you have more opportunities for education
>>>> and
>>>> healthcare and employment. where is the negative here?
>>>> 73
>>>> Colin, V A6BKX
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:06 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: This has nothing to do with ham radio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> They said the same thing about President Trumann. Let's wait thirty
>>>>> years
>>>>> and then judge.
>>>>> The Health Care Reform act is a bad law, but it's a start to put us on
>>>>> a
>>>>> par
>>>>> with other industrialized nations. The problem is it doesn't reform
>>>>> the
>>>>> system. Money is made by curing catastrophic illnesses, not by
>>>>> preventing
>>>>> them. Where do you think the brightest minds in medicine go? Right to
>>>>> specialization rather than to primary care.
>>>>> America has the best health care in the world, that is if you have a
>>>>> million
>>>>> dollar illness like cancer. Your child has a higher statistical chance
>>>>> of
>>>>> living to the age of five in Cuba than he or she does by being born in
>>>>> America.
>>>>> We fiddle while Rhome burns.
>>>>
>>
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