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Steve Dresser <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 1 Mar 2010 21:13:24 -0500
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John,

Did shortening the ladder line improve anything besides 160?

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 17:10
Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net


> actually, the newer ones the ladder line is 19 feet shorter than the older
> ones were, when I got mine and I'm told that's because they did find 
> that's
> a magic number to make it work better. If you look on the site, I think 
> the
> ladder line's about 81 feet now instead of the 100 it used to be.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:34 PM
> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>
>
>> Interesting.  I thought about doing that, but didn't want the performance
>> to
>> suffer on other bands.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 15:07
>> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>>
>>
>>> I've run it there, it works very well for most of the band, I have
>>> trouble
>>> at the very bottom of the band with the tuner in the radio but beyond
>>> that,
>>> I've run it there and it's playing decent. I know others doing it as
>>> well.
>>> What's funny is, I trimmed about 20 feet off the ladder line and I think
>>> it
>>> actually plays better on 160 now than it did before I did that.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 2:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>>>
>>>
>>>> John,
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried the Ultralite on 160?  I've tried tuning mine there, but
>>>> it's
>>>> very touchy and I'm not sure it will work very well.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 12:45
>>>> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> the cobra ultralight is 160 as well, the senior version, if you google
>>>>> it,
>>>>> you can find info on it. It's 160 through 10, I love mine.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 12:22 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> What is cobra ultra-lite?  I'm thinking of the alfa delta as I'm
>>>>>> wanting
>>>>>> to try 160 as well.
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>> open Node 3148
>>>>>> Las Vegas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, John Miller wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd say cobra ultralite would get you better results but that might
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> stretch for the land you have, that's noticeably better than my g5rv
>>>>>>> was.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:18 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had a g5rv here, but I run a magnus amp at times and the g5rv
>>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> tuner for the amp to work.  I didn't have them both up at the same
>>>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>>> but I didn't see much difference when I took the g5rv down and put
>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>> the b and w.
>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>>>> open Node 3148
>>>>>>>> Las Vegas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, John Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why not put up a g5rv or something? if the center is high enough
>>>>>>>>> form
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> ends, it will fit in a 100 foot  yard.
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:48 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a gap vertical, which was better yesterday.  I also have a
>>>>>>>>>> b
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> w all band, I call it my dummy load with wires.  It is a
>>>>>>>>>> compromise
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> know, but My lot here is only 100 feet deep.
>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>>>>>> open Node 3148
>>>>>>>>>> Las Vegas
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Gerry
>>>>>>>>>> Leary wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What do you have for an antenna?
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:16 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: some thoughts on 17 meters for next week's net
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't believe my station sucks that bad, but I only heard one
>>>>>>>>>>>> station
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I don't even know where he was located.  I finally gave up.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> know if it is propogation, my location or all of the above, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>> discouraging here in Las Vegas.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>>>>>>>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>>>>>>>>> open Node 3148
>>>>>>>>>>>> Las Vegas
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
> 

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