ahhhh, OK, that makes sense then, you connect the wires together it should 
put out a god awful hum while it's keyed. I'm wondering if maybe that 
element does need power, is there something else, a computer mic or 
something you can try? I know the impedance is different with a computer 
mic, but it still should work. I've done it before.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios


> Hi John,
>     Oddly, when I was tripping the VOX it was just the two wires touching
> with no mike element. Now that I attached the wires to the element it quit
> tripping the vox. Its an odd one.
>
> God bless,
> Mark
> Jesus Is Lord!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios
>
>
>> it trips the vox but there's no audio? strange, is your mic gain set too
>> low? what if you crank it all the way up? any improvement? if it's
>> tripping
>> the vox there must be some audio there.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mark" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios
>>
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>     Actually, I rewired the mike head to go directly from the element to
>>> the cord. Then I can use either VOX or the PTT for the Heil. On the 
>>> plug,
>>> I
>>> am using the shield and the tip. These two seemed to trip the VOX on the
>>> radio. So, I am puzzled.
>>>
>>> God bless,
>>> Mark
>>> Jesus Is Lord!
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:31 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios
>>>
>>>
>>>> are you using the ptt button on the mic? or the ptt you'd usually use
>>>> with
>>>> the heil mic? If the usual ptt switch, try the mic holding the ptt
>>>> button
>>>> at
>>>> the same time and see if maybe that switches the element on and off. I
>>>> don't
>>>> think HT mics do use the voltage but it's possible, I haven't seen one
>>>> yet
>>>> but there's got to be a reasonable reason, something's not wired right.
>>>> If
>>>> that a 3 conductor plug on the HT mic? I need to check mine but if so,
>>>> I'm
>>>> wondering if the audio is not the tip.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Mark" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:14 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>     I am not sure about if the microphone had power to the element
>>>>> before
>>>>> I
>>>>> rewired it but I was under the impression that microphones for handy
>>>>> talkies
>>>>> didn't actually use that style element. I really don't know.
>>>>>     The Heil headset still has good audio. its just physically seen
>>>>> better
>>>>> days.
>>>>>     Actually, I am using the Heil adapter to plug the 3.5 MM plug for
>>>>> the
>>>>> handy talkie mike in to the Kenwood.
>>>>>
>>>>> God bless,
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> Jesus Is Lord!
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:42 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> if the impedance was off, you'd have low audio but something would be
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>> What it might be is, does the mic need power to work? and did you 
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>> it's getting it? Some of those mics need power to the element. Was 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> mic
>>>>>> working before? Also, what was the problem with the heil mic? it
>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> same was it?
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Mark" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:20 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Mike Impedance for modern Radios
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>     I decided to convert one of my junk box two meter mikes to a 
>>>>>>> mike
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>> for my Kenwood TS 440 S. This will hold me over until my Heil head
>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>> is repaired. The conversion went smoothly and every thing went well 
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>> until I tried to use the mike and no audio came out. I am sure the =
>>>>>>> wiring is right. So, I am left with the question of would this be an
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>> issue of having the wrong impedance microphone? If so how does one 
>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>> about changing the impedance?
>>>>>>>     Thank you in advance for your help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> God bless,
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>> Jesus Is Lord!